[governance] Russia

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Indian LE des have Whois access and moreover you need ISP logs for anything beyond, that is true. 

And sometimes it is all about legitimising and/or nailing down loopholes in any such sort of overreach that you already are deeply engaged in.

--srs (iPad)

On 16-Dec-2012, at 22:44, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:

> Suresh,
> 
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
> <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
>> With the ripe NCC for their local area of coverage yes.  And for naming with
>> the .ru ccTLD and with local registrars.  But has there been any indication
>> of the scope here?  This seems to be targeted at Russian citizens that buy a
>> domain from just about anywhere, and possibly to at least get themselves the
>> equivalent of a nationwide LIR,ostensibly under the RIPE framework but more
>> or less completely independent.
> 
> They already have (or at least had) something very similar in that
> Rosniiros (sp?)
> acted as a sort of "LIR of LIRs" without being a NIR.
> 
> I think the Russians wanted to control all numbering, naming and
> identification inside
> their borders, making up laws in willful ignorance of reality.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> This viewpoint isn't something that is very unique.
>> 
>> Various indian government officials seem to have conflated a rather long and
>> recently accomplished attempt to get an APNIC NIR in India (an attempt
>> accompanied by a great deal of acrimony shall we say) as some form of
>> national control over IP address allocation, solely for the convenience of
>> local law enforcement. Which is kind of short sighted as I say in my comment
>> to the article (you have to click the comments link for them to open, not
>> visible by default)
> 
> short-sighted, and untrue!  Indian LE already has access to WHOIS.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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