[governance] Russia

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Sun Dec 16 12:14:37 EST 2012


Suresh,

On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> With the ripe NCC for their local area of coverage yes.  And for naming with
> the .ru ccTLD and with local registrars.  But has there been any indication
> of the scope here?  This seems to be targeted at Russian citizens that buy a
> domain from just about anywhere, and possibly to at least get themselves the
> equivalent of a nationwide LIR,ostensibly under the RIPE framework but more
> or less completely independent.

They already have (or at least had) something very similar in that
Rosniiros (sp?)
acted as a sort of "LIR of LIRs" without being a NIR.

I think the Russians wanted to control all numbering, naming and
identification inside
their borders, making up laws in willful ignorance of reality.



>
> This viewpoint isn't something that is very unique.
>
> Various indian government officials seem to have conflated a rather long and
> recently accomplished attempt to get an APNIC NIR in India (an attempt
> accompanied by a great deal of acrimony shall we say) as some form of
> national control over IP address allocation, solely for the convenience of
> local law enforcement. Which is kind of short sighted as I say in my comment
> to the article (you have to click the comments link for them to open, not
> visible by default)

short-sighted, and untrue!  Indian LE already has access to WHOIS.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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