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[Riaz K Tayob]

Parminder

I think here WE (or me?) have to maintain the dialectical opposites we 
face in this process. Mueller is definitely not in the same league as 
some of the US Exceptionalists/Status Quoists - politically in effect 
yes, but substantively perhaps not.

On the perhaps not, there is virtue in pushing for the break in the 
DOC-ICANN link, as it opens up a gradation of possibilties that 
obsequious ICANNers have worked hard to foreclose discussion on. So 
Mueller needs to be put in a context that takes on board some if not all 
of your concerns as these are important allies, no matter how robustly 
we deal with them in the civil (read reason) society discourse.

And on the other hand, they too need to be aware of the "authentic" 
legitimacy arguments and ensure their proposals (implicitly or 
explicity, former more than the latter) resonate somewhat with other views.

There claim to be seeking Internationalisation is now subject to 
different substantive views, including what may well be called a 
Ptolemic exercise to salvage what is there... on this the simple 
processes (rather than substance) that have been put in place to deal 
with this (other than get into the ICANN programme) leaves me wondering 
as to the sincerity of some players. Of course, I do not get this from 
Milton, as robust as he is, he has been open and often generous in 
sharing his work... which reflects an openness and candour that we 
should allow some, how do I put it, saving of face (in Chinese parlance)...

Riaz
On 2012/12/10 12:57 PM, parminder wrote:
> McTim, you must make up your mind whether you are advocating a 'free 
> floating ICANN' model or are backing Milton's views, who is strongly, 
> i repeat, strongly, against any free floating model for ICANN.....
>
>  It is a different thing that I cannot at all understand how keeping 
> ICANN rooted in the US legal system,  as Milton advocates, can be 
> called de-nationalisation of ICANN by any stretch... parminder 


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