[governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet Freedom!"... (from taxes?

[McTim]

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:15 AM, parminder <parminder at itforchange.net> wrote:

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> One needs to do more than say I/we are for "internationalising ICANN".
> That would be merely rhetoric unless one is ready to present (and engage
> with) a credible plan and roadmap, which all those, whom Riaz may call as
> "US exceptionalists" and I often call as "US apologists", have never done
> here. Have they ever? IF they have, please point me to it.
>
>
Please see Drake's reply to you the last time we talked about this.  I
don't have a link however.




>  No, it isnt enough to say that the US should just terminate the ICANN
> contract (including the IANA part) . One needs to propose under what  kind
> of arrangement will the new internationalised ICANN get institutionalised
> and subsist.
>


Why?  Isn't a "free-floating" ICANN the next major step in the ongoing
evolution?



> One needs at least framework level indications/ details. Would it still be
> headquarter-ed in the US. If so what kind of immunities would it have from
> US jurisdiction, and how will they be ensured?
>

Evolution means a series of minor changes, this would be several steps down
the road, and unless ICANN HQ is moved to the moon (or perhaps a private
island [we could call it "Internetistan"] purchased with new gTLD monies)
there will always be a jurisdictional issue.  Of course, if ICANN became an
IGO of the UN system then your requirements might be met, but none of us (
I think) want an "intergovernmental only" ICANN.




> It is very central to the internationalisation issue that neither the US
> executive nor its courts are able to interfere with ICANN's decisions.
>


It is central to your version of "internationalisation", not to all
versions.

It would be enough for the moment if we could get everyone on the list to
stop top-posting and trim your mails, that would be a useful next step!

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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