[governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet Freedom!"... (from taxes?

[parminder]

On Thursday 06 December 2012 02:52 AM, McTim wrote:
> Riaz,
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com 
> <mailto:riaz.tayob at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
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>     snip
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> Can you point to any of those?  I have challenged you on this before, 
> and from what I can see there are none (even amongst the Americans on 
> the list, some of whom are amongst the strongest voices for 
> "internationalising ICANN").

One needs to do more than say I/we are for "internationalising ICANN". 
That would be merely rhetoric unless one is ready to present (and engage 
with) a credible plan and roadmap, which all those, whom Riaz may call 
as "US exceptionalists" and I often call as "US apologists", have never 
done here. Have they ever? IF they have, please point me to it.

No, it isnt enough to say that the US should just terminate the ICANN 
contract (including the IANA part) . One needs to propose under what  
kind of arrangement will the new internationalised ICANN get 
institutionalised and subsist. One needs at least framework level 
indications/ details. Would it still be headquarter-ed in the US. If so 
what kind of immunities would it have from US jurisdiction, and how will 
they be ensured? It is very central to the internationalisation issue 
that neither the US executive nor its courts are able to interfere with 
ICANN's decisions. What is the plan to ensure this? There are other 
issues but lets first get a fix on these.

That would be internationalisation. So would all those 'strongest' 
voices for "internationalising ICANN" that you refer to, and in which 
you presumably include yourself, tell me what they mean by 
"internationalising ICANN" and what is their basic framework to achieve it?

parminder

>
>
> -- 
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A 
> route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel

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