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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 06 December 2012 02:52 AM,
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<div>Can you point to any of those? I have challenged you on
this before, and from what I can see there are none (even
amongst the Americans on the list, some of whom are amongst
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One needs to do more than say I/we are for "internationalising
ICANN". That would be merely rhetoric unless one is ready to present
(and engage with) a credible plan and roadmap, which all those, whom
Riaz may call as "US exceptionalists" and I often call as "US
apologists", have never done here. Have they ever? IF they have,
please point me to it. <br>
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No, it isnt enough to say that the US should just terminate the
ICANN contract (including the IANA part) . One needs to propose
under what kind of arrangement will the new internationalised ICANN
get institutionalised and subsist. One needs at least framework
level indications/ details. Would it still be headquarter-ed in the
US. If so what kind of immunities would it have from US
jurisdiction, and how will they be ensured? It is very central to
the internationalisation issue that neither the US executive nor its
courts are able to interfere with ICANN's decisions. What is the
plan to ensure this? There are other issues but lets first get a fix
on these.<br>
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That would be internationalisation. So would all those 'strongest'
voices for "internationalising ICANN" that you refer to, and in
which you presumably include yourself, tell me what they mean by
"internationalising ICANN" and what is their basic framework to
achieve it?<br>
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parminder <br>
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Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is.
A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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