[governance] Does anyone have further information or clarification on this?

Suresh Ramasubramanian suresh at hserus.net
Thu Dec 6 05:26:11 EST 2012


Technology from one vendor or the other, with sufficient lobbying and / or other ways and means of ensuring their government's ITU delegation's support, does make the rounds of ITU-T study groups, and does get adopted from time to time.  Jumping the gap between that and adoption in the industry is well .. easier said than done. 

Though China has been known to mandate some obscure standard that its local vendors develop, for cellular telephony or anything else, and then mandate that anybody selling gear in china has to comply with it.   What part of this is due to the lobbying pull a local vendor has with the chinese regulators / ministry and what part of this is due to an overall design to snoop on all their citizens is up for debate.

Like for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLAN_Authentication_and_Privacy_Infrastructure - which they issued, submitted to the ISO, got into an ugly and messy fight (complete with xinhua articles piously declaiming against IEEE campaigns against this "technology") etc etc.  It appears to have been quietly withdrawn after an overwhelming lack of support.

Or this other, extremely amusing, episode, from 2004.  
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/06/ipv9_hype_dismissed/

I've been pointing that out on Simon Davies' facebook post, 

--srs (iPad)

On 06-Dec-2012, at 14:37, Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> A resolution adopted at WTSA last week (or the week before)
> 
> See ITU blog for their view
> <http://itu4u.wordpress.com/2012/12/06/data-deluge-motivates-itu-standard-on-deep-packet-inspection/>
> 
> Note 2nd para "The World Telecommunication Standardisation Assembly
> (WTSA) held in Dubai last November resolved some concerns regarding
> maintaining privacy after it was noted that the standard deals with
> the identification of the application used rather than the inspection
> of users content. The standard does not allow access to users’ private
> information and allows measures to ensure the secrecy of
> correspondence."   I have no idea if this is correct.
> 
> Might be best to ask someone who was at WTSA what happened in the
> discussions, ISOC was there and will have taken note.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:
>> http://www.privacysurgeon.org/blog/incision/now-the-un-has-adopted-chinas-web-snooping-plan-civil-society-must-boycott-the-internet-governance-forum/
>> 
>> 
>> “Now the UN has adopted China’s Web snooping plan, civil society must
>> boycott the Internet Governance Forum” - Simon Davies
>> 
>> 
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