[governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet Freedom!"... (from taxes?

[Dominique Lacroix]

We are talking about companies, not about citizen tax. Are you?

Internet Freedom Tax Act was a Clinton policy, in 1997-98, together with 
ICANN creation. The stake was to help US companies to spread the world.
Now these companies are world dominant and Bill Clinton's advice is to 
create taxes on eCommerce.

But Internet companies shout: /Governments, take off your hands//!/

At the moment, US governement only have their hands on Internet main 
affairs... And they agree with US companies to prevent other countries 
to take part in decisions.

Thats one of the WCIT stake.

@+, Dom

Le 03/12/12 14:37, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
> If you are a US citizen, the income you make anywhere in the world is 
> subject to US tax, e&oe double tax avoidance treaties.  Double Irish, 
> offshore shell companies and such are as old as the hills.
>
> Again, reaganomics notwithstanding, that has little or nothing to do 
> with WCIT.
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 03-Dec-2012, at 18:49, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu 
> <mailto:dl at panamo.eu>> wrote:
>
>> Tax cut is fiscal dumping. That's the connection.
>> Some Internet companies can escape taxes because their activities 
>> aren't linked to territories. Others are linked to countries and pay 
>> full taxes.
>>
>> For example, in the new TLDs candidates. Some hundred of projects are 
>> declared in British Virgin Islands, Bermuda, Cayman, Gibraltar etc.
>> They are US companies and nevertheless, thay are counted as European 
>> projects!
>>
>> The real numbers of new TLDs projects are:
>>
>> US: 1230
>> EU: 356 and not 675 as Icann displays it.
>> Asia-Pacific: 303
>> South America: 24
>> Africa: 17
>>
>> Destroying the basic equilibria is dangerous for any people. Even 
>> dangerous for US people. We can see the actual results on the middle 
>> classes and environment...
>>
>>
>> @+, Dominique
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 03/12/12 12:39, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>>> Of course the tax dispute is not with the telecom regulators of 
>>> those countries and would continue regardless of the outcome in the 
>>> WCIT, so you will forgive me if I don't quite get the connection
>>>
>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Dominique Lacroix" <dl at panamo.eu>
>>> To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet Freedom!"... (from 
>>> taxes?
>>> Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:35 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Michael. Also Germany:
>>> http://www.linformaticien.com/actualites/id/27219/menace-d-une-taxe-en-allemagne-google-defend-la-liberte-de-surfer.aspx
>>>
>>> It was a similar case with "Freedom of the seas", before international
>>> regulation...
>>>
>>> @+, Dominique
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Dominique Lacroix
>>> http://reseaux.blog.lemonde.fr
>>>
>>> Société européenne de l'Internet
>>> http://www.ies-france.eu
>>> +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 03/12/12 11:40, michael gurstein a écrit :
>>> > 
>>> http://delimiter.com.au/2012/11/23/australian-govt-pledges-action-on-google-
>>> > tax-avoidance/
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/15431664/france-says-google-would-
>>> > lose-court-case-over-taxes/
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> http://en.apa.az/news_google_italy_suspected_of_tax_evasion__183392.html
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> http://www.3news.co.nz/Starbucks-Google-Amazon-accused-of-UK-tax-evasion/tab
>>> > id/369/articleID/276457/Default.aspx
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/23/0156212/australian-govt-pledges-acti
>>> > on-on-google-tax-evasion
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/the-ituwcit-thinking-about-internet
>>> > -regulatory-policy-from-an-ldc-perspective/
>>
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