[governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet Freedom!"... (from taxes?
Riaz K Tayob
riaz.tayob at gmail.com
Mon Dec 3 12:06:54 EST 2012
Not so certain, even on World Income based system. Legal personalities -
well they can be multiple.
Accounting treatment for royalty income differs and is a major form of
tax competition within different tax jurisdictions (wondering why
McDonald's is now "Swiss" in large order?)
Then there is transfer pricing.
Add to that Congressionally approved holidays for repatriation of
foreign profits tax free to the US... and voila... taxes on workers
should go up to avoid a deficit right?
On 2012/12/03 03:37 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> If you are a US citizen, the income you make anywhere in the world is
> subject to US tax, e&oe double tax avoidance treaties. Double Irish,
> offshore shell companies and such are as old as the hills.
>
> Again, reaganomics notwithstanding, that has little or nothing to do
> with WCIT.
>
> --srs (iPad)
>
> On 03-Dec-2012, at 18:49, Dominique Lacroix <dl at panamo.eu
> <mailto:dl at panamo.eu>> wrote:
>
>> Tax cut is fiscal dumping. That's the connection.
>> Some Internet companies can escape taxes because their activities
>> aren't linked to territories. Others are linked to countries and pay
>> full taxes.
>>
>> For example, in the new TLDs candidates. Some hundred of projects are
>> declared in British Virgin Islands, Bermuda, Cayman, Gibraltar etc.
>> They are US companies and nevertheless, thay are counted as European
>> projects!
>>
>> The real numbers of new TLDs projects are:
>>
>> US: 1230
>> EU: 356 and not 675 as Icann displays it.
>> Asia-Pacific: 303
>> South America: 24
>> Africa: 17
>>
>> Destroying the basic equilibria is dangerous for any people. Even
>> dangerous for US people. We can see the actual results on the middle
>> classes and environment...
>>
>>
>> @+, Dominique
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 03/12/12 12:39, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
>>> Of course the tax dispute is not with the telecom regulators of
>>> those countries and would continue regardless of the outcome in the
>>> WCIT, so you will forgive me if I don't quite get the connection
>>>
>>> --srs (htc one x)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Dominique Lacroix" <dl at panamo.eu>
>>> To: <governance at lists.igcaucus.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet Freedom!"... (from
>>> taxes?
>>> Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:35 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Michael. Also Germany:
>>> http://www.linformaticien.com/actualites/id/27219/menace-d-une-taxe-en-allemagne-google-defend-la-liberte-de-surfer.aspx
>>>
>>> It was a similar case with "Freedom of the seas", before international
>>> regulation...
>>>
>>> @+, Dominique
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dominique Lacroix
>>> http://reseaux.blog.lemonde.fr
>>>
>>> Société européenne de l'Internet
>>> http://www.ies-france.eu
>>> +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 03/12/12 11:40, michael gurstein a écrit :
>>> >
>>> http://delimiter.com.au/2012/11/23/australian-govt-pledges-action-on-google-
>>> > tax-avoidance/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/15431664/france-says-google-would-
>>> > lose-court-case-over-taxes/
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://en.apa.az/news_google_italy_suspected_of_tax_evasion__183392.html
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.3news.co.nz/Starbucks-Google-Amazon-accused-of-UK-tax-evasion/tab
>>> > id/369/articleID/276457/Default.aspx
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/23/0156212/australian-govt-pledges-acti
>>> > on-on-google-tax-evasion
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/the-ituwcit-thinking-about-internet
>>> > -regulatory-policy-from-an-ldc-perspective/
>>
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