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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><big><big>We are talking about
          companies, not about citizen tax. Are you?<br>
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          Internet Freedom Tax Act was a Clinton policy, in 1997-98,
          together with ICANN creation. The stake was to help US
          companies to spread the world.<br>
          Now these companies are world dominant and Bill Clinton's
          advice is to create taxes on eCommerce.<br>
          <br>
          But Internet companies shout: <i>Governments, take off your
            hands</i><i>!</i><br>
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          At the moment, US governement only have their hands on
          Internet main affairs... And they agree with US companies to
          prevent other countries to take part in decisions.<br>
          <br>
          Thats one of the WCIT stake.<br>
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          @+, Dom</big></big>
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      Le 03/12/12 14:37, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :<br>
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      <div>If you are a US citizen, the income you make anywhere in the
        world is subject to US tax, e&oe double tax avoidance
        treaties.  Double Irish, offshore shell companies and such are
        as old as the hills.</div>
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      <div>Again, reaganomics notwithstanding, that has little or
        nothing to do with WCIT.<br>
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        --srs (iPad)</div>
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        On 03-Dec-2012, at 18:49, Dominique Lacroix <<a
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        wrote:<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tax cut is fiscal dumping. That's
            the connection.<br>
            Some Internet companies can escape taxes because their
            activities aren't linked to territories. Others are linked
            to countries and pay full taxes.<br>
            <br>
            For example, in the new TLDs candidates. Some hundred of
            projects are declared in British Virgin Islands, Bermuda,
            Cayman, Gibraltar etc.<br>
            They are US companies and nevertheless, thay are counted as
            European projects!<br>
            <br>
            The real numbers of new TLDs projects are: <br>
            <br>
            US: 1230<br>
            EU: 356 and not 675 as Icann displays it.<br>
            Asia-Pacific: 303<br>
            South America: 24<br>
            Africa: 17<br>
            <br>
            Destroying the basic equilibria is dangerous for any people.
            Even dangerous for US people. We can see the actual results
            on the middle classes and environment...<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            @+, Dominique<br>
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            Le 03/12/12 12:39, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :<br>
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          <blockquote cite="mid:E1TfUNT-0006sr-S0@frodo.hserus.net"
            type="cite"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Of course the
              tax dispute is not with the telecom regulators of those
              countries and would continue regardless of the outcome in
              the WCIT, so you will forgive me if I don't quite get the
              connection <br>
              <br>
              --srs (htc one x)<br>
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              ----- Reply message -----<br>
              From: "Dominique Lacroix" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"><governance@lists.igcaucus.org></a><br>
              Subject: [governance] Hmmmm... Google: "Internet
              Freedom!"... (from taxes?<br>
              Date: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 4:35 PM<br>
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            Thanks Michael. Also Germany:<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.linformaticien.com/actualites/id/27219/menace-d-une-taxe-en-allemagne-google-defend-la-liberte-de-surfer.aspx">http://www.linformaticien.com/actualites/id/27219/menace-d-une-taxe-en-allemagne-google-defend-la-liberte-de-surfer.aspx</a><br>
            <br>
            It was a similar case with "Freedom of the seas", before
            international <br>
            regulation...<br>
            <br>
            @+, Dominique<br>
            <br>
            -- <br>
            Dominique Lacroix<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="http://reseaux.blog.lemonde.fr">http://reseaux.blog.lemonde.fr</a><br>
            <br>
            Société européenne de l'Internet<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="http://www.ies-france.eu">http://www.ies-france.eu</a><br>
            +33 (0)6 63 24 39 14<br>
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            Le 03/12/12 11:40, michael gurstein a écrit :<br>
            >
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://delimiter.com.au/2012/11/23/australian-govt-pledges-action-on-google">http://delimiter.com.au/2012/11/23/australian-govt-pledges-action-on-google</a>-<br>
            > tax-avoidance/<br>
            ><br>
            >
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/15431664/france-says-google-would">http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/news/15431664/france-says-google-would</a>-<br>
            > lose-court-case-over-taxes/<br>
            ><br>
            > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://en.apa.az/news_google_italy_suspected_of_tax_evasion__183392.html">http://en.apa.az/news_google_italy_suspected_of_tax_evasion__183392.html</a><br>
            ><br>
            >
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Starbucks-Google-Amazon-accused-of-UK-tax-evasion/tab">http://www.3news.co.nz/Starbucks-Google-Amazon-accused-of-UK-tax-evasion/tab</a><br>
            > id/369/articleID/276457/Default.aspx<br>
            ><br>
            >
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/23/0156212/australian-govt-pledges-acti">http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/23/0156212/australian-govt-pledges-acti</a><br>
            > on-on-google-tax-evasion<br>
            ><br>
            >
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/the-ituwcit-thinking-about-internet">http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2012/10/11/the-ituwcit-thinking-about-internet</a><br>
            > -regulatory-policy-from-an-ldc-perspective/</blockquote>
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