[governance] IGC on Facebook?
Craig Simon
cls at rkey.com
Wed Sep 7 11:42:05 EDT 2011
As someone who's done some Facebook app development, I'd suggest that
there might be a technical solution that routes around the various
problems and reservations being raised here.
FYI, the The IGC exists as a closed group with about 6 members, and the
Internet Governance Forum has about 2100 "likes" but doesn't see a great
deal of activity.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/CS.IGC/
http://www.facebook.com/IntGovForum?ref=ts
My understanding is that some within the IGC would like to use Facebook
in ways that can leverage all the viral goodness that Facebook may
offer. That is, people who post and comment on a Page or Group wall can
generally count on having that content pushed out onto many personal
newsfeeds where it can easily attract new particpants.
The evident problem is that non-Facebook users wouldn't be able to see
that content at all. Moreover, even Facebook members may miss it as
things fly by.
Moreover, some folks simply don't want to be on Facebook... period.
That's a perfectly reasonable position. Others may be considering
violating FB's terms of service by creating a fake persona for that
purpose only. I'd advise against that, since it can get confusing, and
the account would always be at high risk of termination.
In my own online reading habits, I tend to be far more diligent about
following my various subscriptions in filtered lists via my email client
than I am about following groups on Facebook. So I believe that moving
this list's content to Facebook would degrade my ability to keep up with
conversations. I expect others would have the same concern.
Nevertheless, there's no denying that, if prominence is what you want, a
stronger presence on Facebook is a good way to pursue it.
I believe there may be (or soon will be) facebook apps that facilitate
automatic publication of email list digests to a Facebook wall, and the
simultaneous republication of wall comments back to the list. I've
looked briefly, and I recommend that folks here who are advocating a
pro-Facebook strategy keep their eyes open for that kind of a tool.
Craig Simon
On 9/6/11 7:03 PM, cveraq at gmail.com wrote:
> You have what you pay for! Facebook is free so sharing data and sending
> you info is about the business model for they to make money. There are
> other platforms and choices so it's about you to make a decision.
>
> You can open a new email account, put a code name and fake info and open
> a facebook account just to participate in IGF.. Or enjoy, as me,
> facebook and share it with friends, relatives, parents, grandma, sons
> and even with IGF's people!
>
> No matter what you're always nake on Internet and privacy is only a
> remember from a long long time ago! Isn't it?
>
> Carlos
>
> Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: * shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>
> *Date: *Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT)
> *To: *cveraq at gmail.com<cveraq at gmail.com>;
> governance at lists.cpsr.org<governance at lists.cpsr.org>; Rui
> Correia<correia.rui at gmail.com>
> *ReplyTo: * shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> The issue is we need open digital platform/space to share ideas,
> knowledge, network and collaborate etc but we also want privacy
> protection !!!
> Can we have both and how good is Facebook or any other in respecting
> privacy ?
> *shaila*
> *
> *
> *The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !*
> *..................... the renaissance of composure !
> *
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* "cveraq at gmail.com" <cveraq at gmail.com>
> *To:* shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>; "governance at lists.cpsr.org"
> <governance at lists.cpsr.org>; Rui Correia <correia.rui at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2011 3:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> If there are no problems! Then no solutions, no innovations, no
> internet2, no nothing. I love problems because they are always an
> opportunity.. In stone age, no IP problems, no privacy concerns, but I"m
> still happy to be here and now!
> Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From: * shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>
> *Date: *Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:59:44 -0700 (PDT)
> *To: *governance at lists.cpsr.org<governance at lists.cpsr.org>;
> cveraq at gmail.com<cveraq at gmail.com>; Rui Correia<correia.rui at gmail.com>
> *ReplyTo: * shaila mistry <shailam at yahoo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> I guess they are "coming for me too"
> shaila :):)
> *The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !*
> *..................... the renaissance of composure !
> *
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Rui Correia <correia.rui at gmail.com>
> *To:* governance at lists.cpsr.org; cveraq at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2011 1:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> Hey Carlos
>
> How long will you hold out? your 5-6 just got mowed down to 3-4 in three
> minutes! They are coming for you! ;-)
>
> Um abraço,
>
> Rui
>
> 2011/9/6 <cveraq at gmail.com <mailto:cveraq at gmail.com>>
>
> Facebook is the greast SOCIAL network in the whole world. It's your
> choice to be or not to be there.
>
> But of course you do not choose something SOCIAL to be hide! SOCIAL
> means open, privacy not totally ensured, and more.
>
> The only way to ensure you're not exposed is to keep out!
>
> IGF is public, open and needs and easy system to participate,
> Facebook is that kind of tool except for those 3-4 that does not
> have Facebook. So, it's ok for millions including me.
>
> Love innovation and love SOCIAL tools
>
> Carlos Vera
> Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>>
> Sender: governance at lists.cpsr.org <mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org>
> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:56:50
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org <mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org>>;
> Norbert Bollow<nb at bollow.ch <mailto:nb at bollow.ch>>
> Reply-To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> <mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org>,"Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca
> <mailto:ca at cafonso.ca>>
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> It seems by now I am one of those 5-6 Internet users who is *not* on
> Facebook, and I will not change my mind.
>
> frt rgds
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 09/06/2011 04:19 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> > Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org <mailto:iza at anr.org>> wrote:
> >> It just came to my mind to have our Page on Facebook, be it
> closed or open
> >> or both. What do you think? I think it's worth a try, at least.
> >>
> >> I was thinking to ask all IGC members who is coming to Nairobi
> >> to share their contact/hotel info, and thinking of using some
> >> online facility. Other than mailing list and official website,
> >> we have not much, and then realized how about using Facebook,
> >> (or any other social tool).
> >
> > I agree that it would be good to use some kind of online tool for
> > this purpose, perhaps a wiki?
> >
> > I'd suggest to rather avoid Facebook because of the abysmal track
> > record and attitude regarding privacy matters.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
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