[governance] IGC on Facebook?
Antonio Medina Gómez
amedinagomez at gmail.com
Wed Sep 7 06:33:01 EDT 2011
This option is very valid
Antonio Medina
2011/9/7 Imran Ahmed Shah <ias_pk at yahoo.com>
> Dear Izumi Aizu, How are you? ****
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> While I was reading the thread, discussion and the option you have
> selected, I feel it necessary to highlight the other angle (dark side).***
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> When we create a group on facebook, we go through the following option
> regarding features and types of groups whereas the Closed Group option is
> one of them. Closed Group: anyone can see the group discussion but only
> members can see the wall, discussion board and photos.****
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> As you have decided to start with the “Closed Group” of facebook, my
> concern are as follows.****
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> **1. **Well, once the group is created, the discussion of the IGC-CS
> Members may be viewable for the public but in order to give some comments or
> to participate in the discussion, IGC-CS Members has to sign up the Facebook
> and join this closed group (with the admin’s approval i.e. the coordinators’
> approval). ****
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> **2. **Now my point is this that every IGC-CS Member has to sign up
> the Facebook, and for this purpose we must need a full consensus to modify
> the charter that the IGC-CS Members may also have to become the member of
> the facebook group to participate in the discussion. And for this consensus,
> it will be necessary to provide the awareness of the side effect of the
> facebook type social network websites by mentioning their terms and
> conditions that may have conflict in privacy and data integrity. Most
> probably some or many of the IGC Member do not like to signup facebook
> network or at least through their native or primary email address to protect
> their data, contact and/or other information.****
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> **3. **Otherwise, if the coordinators and/or any of the IGC-CS Member
> like to enhance the projection of the IGC activities, they may be allowed to
> publish final versions of related materials, reports and/or activities (but
> not the raw discussion), on any other public blog/forum/social networking
> site.****
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> **4. **According to review, current voting and comments in favor of
> facebook are agreed on putting the IGC Activities or progress information
> sharing for the millions of the facebook user. And that relates to above
> mentioned item No.3 only.****
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> I hope that your you will review my points thoroughly before opening or
> publishing facebook close group.****
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> Thanking you and Best Regards****
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> Imran Ahmad Shah****
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> Executive Member****
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> UISoc.org/IGFPAK.org****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On
> Behalf Of Izumi AIZU
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 06:12 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; cveraq at gmail.com
> Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; Norbert Bollow
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
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> Dear all,****
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> Thank you for the comments and suggestions. All seem valid and important.*
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> I did not intend to make Facebook page or group too integral with our
> operations, and I don't exclude using our wiki.****
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> Yet, since there are great many people who are using the Facebook already
> if not IGC members but they may share our concerns and interests in a larger
> sense, it might be useful to try this out. That is to start the Open page.
> ****
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> On top of that, or instead of that, say for a while, we can use more
> private Group function, depending on the settings we can make it secret,
> closed but could be seen by anyone, or just open.****
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> I like to first try this "closed group" and see how it works (or not).****
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> izumi****
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> 2011/9/6 <cveraq at gmail.com>:****
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> > Sorry I mean greatest****
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> > Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro****
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> > -----Original Message-----****
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> > From: cveraq at gmail.com****
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> > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:04:39****
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> > To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>; Carlos A. Afonso<ca at cafonso.ca>; ****
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> > Norbert Bollow<nb at bollow.ch>****
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> > Reply-To: cveraq at gmail.com****
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> > Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?****
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> > Facebook is the greast SOCIAL network in the whole world. It's your
> choice to be or not to be there.****
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> > But of course you do not choose something SOCIAL to be hide! SOCIAL means
> open, privacy not totally ensured, and more.****
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> > The only way to ensure you're not exposed is to keep out!****
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> > IGF is public, open and needs and easy system to participate, Facebook is
> that kind of tool except for those 3-4 that does not have Facebook. So, it's
> ok for millions including me.****
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> > Love innovation and love SOCIAL tools****
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> > Carlos Vera****
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> > Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Claro****
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> > -----Original Message-----****
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> > From: "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>****
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> > Sender: governance at lists.cpsr.org****
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> > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:56:50****
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> > To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>; Norbert Bollow<nb at bollow.ch>****
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> > Reply-To: governance at lists.cpsr.org,"Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>**
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> > Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?****
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> > It seems by now I am one of those 5-6 Internet users who is *not* on ***
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> > Facebook, and I will not change my mind.****
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> > frt rgds****
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> > --c.a.****
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> > On 09/06/2011 04:19 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:****
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> >> Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:****
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> >>> It just came to my mind to have our Page on Facebook, be it closed ***
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> >>> or open or both. What do you think? I think it's worth a try, at
> least.****
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> >>> I was thinking to ask all IGC members who is coming to Nairobi to ****
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> >>> share their contact/hotel info, and thinking of using some online ****
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> >>> facility. Other than mailing list and official website, we have not **
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> >>> much, and then realized how about using Facebook, (or any other ****
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> >>> social tool).****
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> >> I agree that it would be good to use some kind of online tool for ****
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> >> this purpose, perhaps a wiki?****
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> >> I'd suggest to rather avoid Facebook because of the abysmal track ****
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> >> record and attitude regarding privacy matters.****
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> >> Greetings,****
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> >> Norbert****
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> >> Izumi Aizu <<****
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