[governance] IGC on Facebook?
Imran Ahmed Shah
ias_pk at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 7 06:18:01 EDT 2011
Dear Izumi Aizu, How are you?
While I was reading the thread, discussion and the option you have selected,
I feel it necessary to highlight the other angle (dark side).
When we create a group on facebook, we go through the following option
regarding features and types of groups whereas the Closed Group option is
one of them. Closed Group: anyone can see the group discussion but only
members can see the wall, discussion board and photos.
As you have decided to start with the "Closed Group" of facebook, my concern
are as follows.
1. Well, once the group is created, the discussion of the IGC-CS
Members may be viewable for the public but in order to give some comments or
to participate in the discussion, IGC-CS Members has to sign up the Facebook
and join this closed group (with the admin's approval i.e. the coordinators'
approval).
2. Now my point is this that every IGC-CS Member has to sign up the
Facebook, and for this purpose we must need a full consensus to modify the
charter that the IGC-CS Members may also have to become the member of the
facebook group to participate in the discussion. And for this consensus, it
will be necessary to provide the awareness of the side effect of the
facebook type social network websites by mentioning their terms and
conditions that may have conflict in privacy and data integrity. Most
probably some or many of the IGC Member do not like to signup facebook
network or at least through their native or primary email address to protect
their data, contact and/or other information.
3. Otherwise, if the coordinators and/or any of the IGC-CS Member like
to enhance the projection of the IGC activities, they may be allowed to
publish final versions of related materials, reports and/or activities (but
not the raw discussion), on any other public blog/forum/social networking
site.
4. According to review, current voting and comments in favor of
facebook are agreed on putting the IGC Activities or progress information
sharing for the millions of the facebook user. And that relates to above
mentioned item No.3 only.
I hope that your you will review my points thoroughly before opening or
publishing facebook close group.
Thanking you and Best Regards
Imran Ahmad Shah
Executive Member
UISoc.org/IGFPAK.org
-----Original Message-----
From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf
Of Izumi AIZU
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 06:12 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; cveraq at gmail.com
Cc: Carlos A. Afonso; Norbert Bollow
Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
Dear all,
Thank you for the comments and suggestions. All seem valid and important.
I did not intend to make Facebook page or group too integral with our
operations, and I don't exclude using our wiki.
Yet, since there are great many people who are using the Facebook already if
not IGC members but they may share our concerns and interests in a larger
sense, it might be useful to try this out. That is to start the Open page.
On top of that, or instead of that, say for a while, we can use more private
Group function, depending on the settings we can make it secret, closed but
could be seen by anyone, or just open.
I like to first try this "closed group" and see how it works (or not).
izumi
2011/9/6 < <mailto:cveraq at gmail.com> cveraq at gmail.com>:
> Sorry I mean greatest
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cveraq at gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:04:39
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>; Carlos A. Afonso<ca at cafonso.ca>;
> Norbert Bollow<nb at bollow.ch>
> Reply-To: cveraq at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> Facebook is the greast SOCIAL network in the whole world. It's your choice
to be or not to be there.
>
> But of course you do not choose something SOCIAL to be hide! SOCIAL means
open, privacy not totally ensured, and more.
>
> The only way to ensure you're not exposed is to keep out!
>
> IGF is public, open and needs and easy system to participate, Facebook is
that kind of tool except for those 3-4 that does not have Facebook. So, it's
ok for millions including me.
>
> Love innovation and love SOCIAL tools
>
> Carlos Vera
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>
> Sender: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:56:50
> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>; Norbert Bollow<nb at bollow.ch>
> Reply-To: governance at lists.cpsr.org,"Carlos A. Afonso" <ca at cafonso.ca>
> Subject: Re: [governance] IGC on Facebook?
>
> It seems by now I am one of those 5-6 Internet users who is *not* on
> Facebook, and I will not change my mind.
>
> frt rgds
>
> --c.a.
>
> On 09/06/2011 04:19 AM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
>> Izumi AIZU < <mailto:iza at anr.org> iza at anr.org> wrote:
>>> It just came to my mind to have our Page on Facebook, be it closed
>>> or open or both. What do you think? I think it's worth a try, at least.
>>>
>>> I was thinking to ask all IGC members who is coming to Nairobi to
>>> share their contact/hotel info, and thinking of using some online
>>> facility. Other than mailing list and official website, we have not
>>> much, and then realized how about using Facebook, (or any other
>>> social tool).
>>
>> I agree that it would be good to use some kind of online tool for
>> this purpose, perhaps a wiki?
>>
>> I'd suggest to rather avoid Facebook because of the abysmal track
>> record and attitude regarding privacy matters.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Norbert
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Institute for HyperNetwork Society, Oita,
Japan
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