[governance] Alternative to status quo (was Re: India Proposes...)

[Daniel Kalchev]

Mike,

I might have overstated my concerns. Of course, I do my best and encourage everyone in my environment to try to work via procedures and processes for the better outcome. This usually works, especially more recently as those politicians learn that brute force attempts are usually unsuccessful.

Perhaps my statement indeed was too condensed..

But experts are rarely interested in political carrier, mostly because they see the fulfillment of their vision in what they do (best).

Daniel

On Oct 28, 2011, at 13:56 , michael gurstein wrote:

> Daniel,
> 
> I think it is most regrettable that your experience with governance and
> governing has evidently left you with very deep scars, resentments, and
> cynicism.  
> 
> You should know however, that your experience is by no means universal and
> my own experience is to have had the opportunity to know, work with and
> share the benefits of the outcomes of politics and politicians who were
> dedicated, public spirited and honest to a fault. 
> 
> Certainly I have known politicians of the kind you are referring to, and
> they unfortunately come to ascendency when citizens are unwilling or unable
> to act effectively in the public sphere but I think it is extremely
> dangerous to suggest that we act in a completely defensive and cynical
> posture towards all structures of governance and those who occupy them.
> 
> It seems to me that when confronted with the structures and individuals of
> the type you are pointing to, the response should be to redouble our
> individual and collaborative efforts towards effective processes rather than
> to look to have governance turned over to the unelected, the unaccountable
> and the more or less completely opaque.
> 
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf
> Of Daniel Kalchev
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 6:23 AM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Norbert Bollow
> Subject: Re: [governance] Alternative to status quo (was Re: India
> Proposes...)
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 28, 2011, at 11:43 , Norbert Bollow wrote:
> 
>> KovenRonald at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> It is in that context that I advocate "leaving well enough alone," not
> out 
>>> of any desire to perpetuate neo-colonialist domination. The present setup
> is 
>>> indeed messy and theoretically most unsatisfactory. The problem is, what
> is 
>>> in practice the real alternative ?
>> 
>> IMO, as I said before, the real alternative starts with the creation
>> of an International Parliament consisting of people who are elected in
>> free and open, worldwide elections.
> 
> 
> Except that the capable people will never, ever run for election. 
> 
> Those who will be elected will be the next wave of opportunists.
> 
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