[governance] Proposal to Merge Website and Mailing List Consultations [Administration/Logistics]

Siranush Vardanyan siranush_vardanyan at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 17 04:50:17 EST 2011


Yes to all 3
 
Siranush
 
Siranush Vardanyan
Armenia
 



Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:53:16 -0200
From: raquel.gatto at gmail.com
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu
CC: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com; iza at anr.org
Subject: Re: [governance] Proposal to Merge Website and Mailing List Consultations [Administration/Logistics]

Hi Sala, Izumi and Jeremy,
I also vote yes for all! 
It was not clear for me in the methodology (FROptions) so should I assume that the coordinators will also be the trustees/responsible for the fund? Of course it's not a huge amount of money but yet it will need some financial management, liability and reporting in the future...
[]s Raquel


2011/11/16 Yuliya Morenets <y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu>

Dear Sala,

Dear Izumi,

Thank you for the summary.

Yes for all points.  All the best, Yuliya


Le 16/11/2011, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"
<salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> a écrit:


>Dear All,
>
>
>:) Greetings from Asia Pacific! Trusting that you are all in excellent
>health. This email is in relation to our the status of our website and
>mailing list. Izumi and I have had discussions with Jeremy.
>
>
>Kindly find the Summary enclosed and for those who are new to the list, we
>warmly welcome you. For those who are interested in further information on
>the range of dialogue that has taken place in the past, you have the option
>of going into the archived mail via the CPSR site or read the background
>information below the Summary.
>
>
>
>*Summary*
>
>*

>*
>
>1.   Given that the Website is hosted by APC and the Mailing List by CPSR,
>do you agree to have the Website and List merged?
>
>2.   If you agree to the merging of the website mailing list and website,
>would you prefer to have it hosted by an independent server or rely on the
>generosity of a like minded organisation?
>
>3.   What mode of fundraising would you prefer from the options listed
>below?
>
>
>The Coordinators are in favour of merging the mailing list and the website
>and fundraising to enable the transition. We are also inclined towards
>hosting it on an independent server.  The cost is $150US for the Transition
>but to continue for 3 years, we are looking at fundraising for $500US.
>
>
>
>All in favour for merging the list and website say – AYE (YES)
>
>All in favour of hosting the list and website on an independent server say
>–AYE (YES)
>
>All in favour for fundraising say – AYE (YES)
>
>
>
>
>From,
>
>
>Izumi and Sala (Coordinators)
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________________________________
>
>
>For those who wish to read more about the context of the current
>discussions read on:
>
>
> *Background*


>
>On January 11, 2011, Jeremy Malcolm in his capacity as co-coordinator had
>sought feedback from the list on the options for moving the governance
>mailing list because the CPSR which has hosted our list is no longer operating
>and cannot maintain its free service to us indefinitely.  Whilst there is
>no immediate urgency as we have about 2 years to vacate the cpsr.org mailing
>list server.  We are of the view that it would be great if we could seek
>closure on this matter shortly before the end of this year.
>
>Jeremy had pointed to three options around January 2011:
>
>.
>1. Asking another like-minded organisation to host it.  Jeremy checked
>with the APC who host our Web site, and they say that their mailing list
>server runs different software (Mailman), so it would be difficult and
>time-consuming to try to shift our archives over to their server.
>
>2. Move our mailing list to the igf-online.net server that hosts the IGF
>Community Site, which is where Jeremy had created the subsidiary mailing
>lists for our Iworking groups.  It runs the same software that we use
>now, so migrating the list with archives intact would be fairly easy.
>
>3. The other option is that we raise some money and hire our own
>dedicated virtual server.  We could, in that case, move our Web site and
>database over there too.
>
>Aside from Jeremy, there were other offers to provide shared hosting to add
>domain of “igcaucus.org”
>
>and mailing list with mailman applications and Pakistan IGF was willing to
>pick up the costs for shared initiatives.
>
>
>Whilst Jeremy had initially recommended Consumers International hosting the
>website, this was abandoned because of the difficulties that Consumers
>International would be able to give a written commitment that future
>co-coordinators would be given administrative privileges and that they
>would support the platform and raise the issue of continuity and stability.
>
>
> Jeremy then pointed to the other option of having a "Donate" button on our
>Web site.
>
>
>In the past there was talk about making an application for a grant from a
>donor like the UN Democracy Fund, but this raised people's fears about
>over-institutionalising the IGC.
>
>
>Avri suggested that it may be good for the IGF to have funding of its own.
>
>Our website is currently hosted by APC.
>
>
>*Proposal to the List*

>
>The Options are listed for your consideration and transparency.
>
>
>
>*Option #*
>
>*Description*
>
>*Strengths*
>
>*Weaknesses*

>
>Option 1
>
>Ask another like-minded organisation to host it
>
>Cheaper, Convenient
>
>Stability, Continuity, Independence
>
>Option 2
>
>Move our mailing list to igf-online.net
>
>
>
>
>
>Option 3
>
>Hire our own dedicated virtual server where we can move our Website and
>Database
>
>Stability, Continuity, Independence, more flexibility in evolution of
>website
>
>Cost based
>
>
>
>Having discussed this at great length and noting the comments and dialogue
>from the list earlier this year our Proposal to the list is to activate
>Option 3 which is to hire our own dedicated virtual server where we can
>move our Website and Database.
>
>
>
>*Proposed Methodology Fund Raising  (FROptions)*

>
>FR Option#1
>
>Creation of Trust Account
>
>FR Option#2
>
>Creation of a Donate Button on Website using Flattr (Social Micropayments)
>
>FR Option#3
>
>Sponsorship
>
>FR Option#4
>
>Wire Transfer
>
>
>
>*Proposed Cost*
>
>*

>*
>
>Moving the website from APC’s Server and the mailing list from CPSR into
>one independent commercial web-hosting service will cost USD150 per annum.
>To guarantee service for the next three (3) years, we will need to raise
>USD500.
>
>*Note: People can anonymously donate via Option 2 and 3. The Fund Raising

>is not compulsory/mandatory and is reliant on kind donations, goodwill and
>generosity.*
>
>* *
>
>*List Consultation*

>
>As such, we are inviting your views on the matter and will close
>consultations on this matter.
>
>--
>Izumi and Sala (Coordinators)


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