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Yes to all 3<BR>
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Siranush<BR>
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Siranush Vardanyan<BR>
Armenia<BR> <BR>
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:53:16 -0200<BR>From: raquel.gatto@gmail.com<BR>To: governance@lists.cpsr.org; y.morenets@againstcybercrime.eu<BR>CC: salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com; iza@anr.org<BR>Subject: Re: [governance] Proposal to Merge Website and Mailing List Consultations [Administration/Logistics]<BR><BR>Hi Sala, Izumi and Jeremy,
<DIV>I also vote yes for all! </DIV>
<DIV>It was not clear for me in the methodology (FROptions) so should I assume that the coordinators will also be the trustees/responsible for the fund? Of course it's not a huge amount of money but yet it will need some financial management, liability and reporting in the future...</DIV>
<DIV>[]s Raquel</DIV>
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<DIV class=ecxgmail_quote>2011/11/16 Yuliya Morenets <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:y.morenets@againstcybercrime.eu">y.morenets@againstcybercrime.eu</A>></SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=ecxgmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Dear Sala,<BR><BR>Dear Izumi,<BR><BR>Thank you for the summary.<BR><BR>Yes for all points. All the best, Yuliya<BR><BR><BR>Le 16/11/2011, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro"<BR><<A href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</A>> a écrit:<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim><BR>>Dear All,<BR>><BR>><BR>>:) Greetings from Asia Pacific! Trusting that you are all in excellent<BR>>health. This email is in relation to our the status of our website and<BR>>mailing list. Izumi and I have had discussions with Jeremy.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Kindly find the Summary enclosed and for those who are new to the list, we<BR>>warmly welcome you. For those who are interested in further information on<BR>>the range of dialogue that has taken place in the past, you have the option<BR>>of going into the archived mail via the CPSR site or read the background<BR>>information below the Summary.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR></DIV>>*Summary*<BR>><BR>>*<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim>>*<BR>><BR>>1. Given that the Website is hosted by APC and the Mailing List by CPSR,<BR>>do you agree to have the Website and List merged?<BR>><BR>>2. If you agree to the merging of the website mailing list and website,<BR>>would you prefer to have it hosted by an independent server or rely on the<BR>>generosity of a like minded organisation?<BR>><BR>>3. What mode of fundraising would you prefer from the options listed<BR>>below?<BR>><BR>><BR>>The Coordinators are in favour of merging the mailing list and the website<BR>>and fundraising to enable the transition. We are also inclined towards<BR>>hosting it on an independent server. The cost is $150US for the Transition<BR>>but to continue for 3 years, we are looking at fundraising for $500US.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>All in favour for merging the list and website say – AYE (YES)<BR>><BR>>All in favour of hosting the list and website on an independent server say<BR>>–AYE (YES)<BR>><BR>>All in favour for fundraising say – AYE (YES)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>From,<BR>><BR>><BR>>Izumi and Sala (Coordinators)<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>__________________________________________________________________________<BR>><BR>><BR>>For those who wish to read more about the context of the current<BR>>discussions read on:<BR>><BR>><BR></DIV>> *Background*<BR>
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<DIV class=h5>><BR>>On January 11, 2011, Jeremy Malcolm in his capacity as co-coordinator had<BR>>sought feedback from the list on the options for moving the governance<BR>>mailing list because the CPSR which has hosted our list is no longer operating<BR>>and cannot maintain its free service to us indefinitely. Whilst there is<BR>>no immediate urgency as we have about 2 years to vacate the <A href="http://cpsr.org/" target=_blank>cpsr.org</A> mailing<BR>>list server. We are of the view that it would be great if we could seek<BR>>closure on this matter shortly before the end of this year.<BR>><BR>>Jeremy had pointed to three options around January 2011:<BR>><BR>>.<BR>>1. Asking another like-minded organisation to host it. Jeremy checked<BR>>with the APC who host our Web site, and they say that their mailing list<BR>>server runs different software (Mailman), so it would be difficult and<BR>>time-consuming to try to shift our archives over to their server.<BR>><BR>>2. Move our mailing list to the <A href="http://igf-online.net/" target=_blank>igf-online.net</A> server that hosts the IGF<BR>>Community Site, which is where Jeremy had created the subsidiary mailing<BR>>lists for our Iworking groups. It runs the same software that we use<BR>>now, so migrating the list with archives intact would be fairly easy.<BR>><BR>>3. The other option is that we raise some money and hire our own<BR>>dedicated virtual server. We could, in that case, move our Web site and<BR>>database over there too.<BR>><BR>>Aside from Jeremy, there were other offers to provide shared hosting to add<BR>>domain of “<A href="http://igcaucus.org/" target=_blank>igcaucus.org</A>”<BR>><BR>>and mailing list with mailman applications and Pakistan IGF was willing to<BR>>pick up the costs for shared initiatives.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Whilst Jeremy had initially recommended Consumers International hosting the<BR>>website, this was abandoned because of the difficulties that Consumers<BR>>International would be able to give a written commitment that future<BR>>co-coordinators would be given administrative privileges and that they<BR>>would support the platform and raise the issue of continuity and stability.<BR>><BR>><BR>> Jeremy then pointed to the other option of having a "Donate" button on our<BR>>Web site.<BR>><BR>><BR>>In the past there was talk about making an application for a grant from a<BR>>donor like the UN Democracy Fund, but this raised people's fears about<BR>>over-institutionalising the IGC.<BR>><BR>><BR>>Avri suggested that it may be good for the IGF to have funding of its own.<BR>><BR>>Our website is currently hosted by APC.<BR>><BR>><BR></DIV></DIV>>*Proposal to the List*<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim>><BR>>The Options are listed for your consideration and transparency.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR></DIV>>*Option #*<BR>><BR>>*Description*<BR>><BR>>*Strengths*<BR>><BR>>*Weaknesses*<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim>><BR>>Option 1<BR>><BR>>Ask another like-minded organisation to host it<BR>><BR>>Cheaper, Convenient<BR>><BR>>Stability, Continuity, Independence<BR>><BR>>Option 2<BR>><BR>>Move our mailing list to <A href="http://igf-online.net/" target=_blank>igf-online.net</A><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Option 3<BR>><BR>>Hire our own dedicated virtual server where we can move our Website and<BR>>Database<BR>><BR>>Stability, Continuity, Independence, more flexibility in evolution of<BR>>website<BR>><BR>>Cost based<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>Having discussed this at great length and noting the comments and dialogue<BR>>from the list earlier this year our Proposal to the list is to activate<BR>>Option 3 which is to hire our own dedicated virtual server where we can<BR>>move our Website and Database.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR></DIV>>*Proposed Methodology Fund Raising (FROptions)*<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim>><BR>>FR Option#1<BR>><BR>>Creation of Trust Account<BR>><BR>>FR Option#2<BR>><BR>>Creation of a Donate Button on Website using Flattr (Social Micropayments)<BR>><BR>>FR Option#3<BR>><BR>>Sponsorship<BR>><BR>>FR Option#4<BR>><BR>>Wire Transfer<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR></DIV>>*Proposed Cost*<BR>><BR>>*<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim>>*<BR>><BR>>Moving the website from APC’s Server and the mailing list from CPSR into<BR>>one independent commercial web-hosting service will cost USD150 per annum.<BR>>To guarantee service for the next three (3) years, we will need to raise<BR>>USD500.<BR>><BR></DIV>>*Note: People can anonymously donate via Option 2 and 3. The Fund Raising<BR>
<DIV class=ecxim>>is not compulsory/mandatory and is reliant on kind donations, goodwill and<BR></DIV>>generosity.*<BR>><BR>>* *<BR>><BR>>*List Consultation*<BR>
<DIV class="ecxim ecxHOEnZb">><BR>>As such, we are inviting your views on the matter and will close<BR>>consultations on this matter.<BR>><BR>>--<BR>>Izumi and Sala (Coordinators)<BR></DIV>
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