[governance] Ohu

Wed May 11 17:28:24 EDT 2011

I'm sorry, I did it again: I sent a message to the list, although it was a
private email. Please excuse, it won't happen anymore.
Regards,
Lorena
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Lorena Jaume-Palasí, M.A.
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Am Mi, 11.05.2011, 23:17, schrieb Lorena Jaume-Palasi:
> Hallo Wolgang,
> kommst Du voran? Wenn Du mir die Texte schickst, kümmere ich mich darum,
> aus Deiner offiziellen Collaboratory-Adresse, die Emails zu zu schicken
> (und natürlich zu verwalten). Ich könnte auch Ende nächster Woche einen
> Reminder schicken.
> BTW, wollen wir auch Leute wie Daniel Domscheit-Berg einladen? Ich bin mit
> ihm bekannt und könnte den Kontakt herstellen, wenn gewünscht.
> Viele Grüße,
> Lorena
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> ________________________________________________
> Lorena Jaume-Palasí, M.A.
> Wissenschaftliche Assistentin
> Lehrstuhl für Politische Theorie (Prof. Dr. Karsten Fischer)
> Geschwister-Scholl-Institut
> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München
> Oettingenstraße 67
> 80538 München
> Tel.: +49 (0)89 2180 90 20
> Fax: +49 (0)89 2180 90 22
>
> Lorena Jaume-Palasí, M.A.
> Research Associate
> Chair of Political Theory,
> Geschwister-Scholl-Institute
> Ludwig-Maximilians-University Munich
> Oettingennstr. 67
> 80538 Munich
> Germany
> Phone: +49 (0)89 2180 90 20
> Fax: +49 (0)89 2180 90 22
>
> Am Mi, 11.05.2011, 14:19, schrieb "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang":
>> Ig you go to the G 20 website and click "The French Priorities" there is
>> nothing related to the Internet. This is a an interesting gap.
>> Intentionally? They did just forget it? Or they do not want to talk
>> about
>> the Internet with Brasil, India and China?   The G 20 summit is planned
>> for Cannes in November 2011. Another nice "film festivalö" and an
>> opportonity for a stresstext how serious MS in IG is taken by
>> governments.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Meryem Marzouki
>> Gesendet: Mi 11.05.2011 11:59
>> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Betreff: Re: And G20? Re: [governance] Internet G8 meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> And why not the G20? Just curious about the arguments.
>> Meryem
>>
>> Le 11 mai 2011 à 11:56, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think it is too late to change the statement since the voting has
>>> started.
>>>
>>> I have voted already but would want to withdraw my support for the
>>> statement if we would change it and now suggest that the G20 is our
>>> preferred group to address Internet policies.
>>>
>>> jeanette
>>>
>>> On 11.05.2011 11:38, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, I'm jumping in even later than Bill!
>>>>
>>>> I think the statement is OK w.r.t. Bill's comment, precisely because,
>>>> as
>>>> Jeremy pointed, it asks for the eG8, and not the G8 itself, to be open
>>>> to other stakeholders. That doesn't contradict the fact that the G8
>>>> will
>>>> probably adopt at least some kind of declaration, on the basis of the
>>>> eG8 conclusions.
>>>>
>>>> But I would like to suggest an addition, which I think wouldn't
>>>> radically change the statement and is in line with IGC positions so
>>>> far.
>>>> This year and under the French presidency, there's not only the G8
>>>> Summit (26-27 May in Dauville) but also the G20 Summit (3-4 November
>>>> in
>>>> Cannes). It's particularly noticeable that the e-thing is held under
>>>> the
>>>> G8 and not the G20.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can add a sentence (related to our statement that " policies
>>>> framed together by the most powerful nations, quite likely, will
>>>> become
>>>> the default global norm", 5th para) stating that Internet issues
>>>> should
>>>> have been addressed by the G20 rather than the G8. I think that, in
>>>> addition, this would certainly be backed by some of the governments
>>>> from
>>>> the 12 excluded countries (not to mention those that are not even part
>>>> of G20). If there are no objection, I'm confident that Jeremy and
>>>> Izumi
>>>> could draft a good sentence to express this point.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, the website of the French presidency of G8-G20 is at:
>>>> http://www.g20-g8.com <http://www.g20-g8.com/> , and there's an
>>>> English
>>>> version available.
>>>>
>>>> Finally one question: will the statement be submitted to NGO
>>>> signatures
>>>> (I mean especially outsite the IGC)?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Meryem
>>>>
>>>> Le 11 mai 2011 à 10:39, William Drake a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 11, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The proposed eG8 will not be a negotiating forum, any more than the
>>>>>> IGF. In that respect, it is nothing like the G8 meetings proper. So
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't see that there is an inconsistency here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a different impression based on the side events of past 68
>>>>> summits, For example the Okinawa summit released the World Ec Forum's
>>>>> report and recs on the global digital divide (which I wrote) and the
>>>>> main meeting endorsed their thrust and promised cash (which generally
>>>>> failed to materialize). Other summits have made similarly
>>>>> declarations
>>>>> on cybersecurity and whatnot that came in part from non-IGO adjuncts.
>>>>> And the news reportage on this one
>>>>> http://www.telecompaper.com/news/internet-g8-to-be-held-in-paris-on-24-25-may
>>>>> says The "Internet G8", a conference to be held in Paris on 24-25 May
>>>>> before the official G8 summit in Deauville, has been conceived t*o
>>>>> generate debate and ultimately a set of proposals from private sector
>>>>> stakeholders for the consideration of the eight heads of government,*
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> Maybe our French colleagues can clarify the precise agenda, but from
>>>>> what I'd hear this may be another one of those international events
>>>>> in
>>>>> which Sarko tries to launch some big new initiatives that's not been
>>>>> fully vetted with counterpart countries. In this context, it'd be
>>>>> surprising if there are no recs or declarations of any sort being
>>>>> provided by the private sector heavies he's assembled. And if so,
>>>>> then
>>>>> the IGF is sort of an odd model to say they should follow, no?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe I'm missing something....
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
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>>>> --
>>>> Meryem Marzouki - Paris, France
>>>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info <mailto:meryem at marzouki.info>
>>>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr <http://www-polytic.lip6.fr
>>>> <http://www-polytic.lip6.fr/> >
>>>> IRIS (Imaginons un réseau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org
>>>> <http://www.iris.sgdg.org <http://www.iris.sgdg.org/> >
>>>> EDRI (European Digital Rights) - www.edri.org <http://www.edri.org
>>>> <http://www.edri.org/> >
>>>>
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>> Email: meryem at marzouki.info
>> Lab. LIP6/CNRS/UPMC - www-polytic.lip6.fr
>> IRIS (Imaginons un réseau Internet solidaire) - www.iris.sgdg.org
>> EDRI (European Digital Rights) - www.edri.org
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