[governance] Ohu

Wed May 11 17:17:35 EDT 2011

Hallo Wolgang,
kommst Du voran? Wenn Du mir die Texte schickst, kümmere ich mich darum,
aus Deiner offiziellen Collaboratory-Adresse, die Emails zu zu schicken
(und natürlich zu verwalten). Ich könnte auch Ende nächster Woche einen
Reminder schicken.
BTW, wollen wir auch Leute wie Daniel Domscheit-Berg einladen? Ich bin mit
ihm bekannt und könnte den Kontakt herstellen, wenn gewünscht.
Viele Grüße,
Lorena
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Am Mi, 11.05.2011, 14:19, schrieb "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang":
> Ig you go to the G 20 website and click "The French Priorities" there is
> nothing related to the Internet. This is a an interesting gap.
> Intentionally? They did just forget it? Or they do not want to talk about
> the Internet with Brasil, India and China?   The G 20 summit is planned
> for Cannes in November 2011. Another nice "film festivalö" and an
> opportonity for a stresstext how serious MS in IG is taken by governments.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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>
> Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Meryem Marzouki
> Gesendet: Mi 11.05.2011 11:59
> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Betreff: Re: And G20? Re: [governance] Internet G8 meeting
>
>
>
> And why not the G20? Just curious about the arguments.
> Meryem
>
> Le 11 mai 2011 à 11:56, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think it is too late to change the statement since the voting has
>> started.
>>
>> I have voted already but would want to withdraw my support for the
>> statement if we would change it and now suggest that the G20 is our
>> preferred group to address Internet policies.
>>
>> jeanette
>>
>> On 11.05.2011 11:38, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sorry, I'm jumping in even later than Bill!
>>>
>>> I think the statement is OK w.r.t. Bill's comment, precisely because,
>>> as
>>> Jeremy pointed, it asks for the eG8, and not the G8 itself, to be open
>>> to other stakeholders. That doesn't contradict the fact that the G8
>>> will
>>> probably adopt at least some kind of declaration, on the basis of the
>>> eG8 conclusions.
>>>
>>> But I would like to suggest an addition, which I think wouldn't
>>> radically change the statement and is in line with IGC positions so
>>> far.
>>> This year and under the French presidency, there's not only the G8
>>> Summit (26-27 May in Dauville) but also the G20 Summit (3-4 November in
>>> Cannes). It's particularly noticeable that the e-thing is held under
>>> the
>>> G8 and not the G20.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can add a sentence (related to our statement that " policies
>>> framed together by the most powerful nations, quite likely, will become
>>> the default global norm", 5th para) stating that Internet issues should
>>> have been addressed by the G20 rather than the G8. I think that, in
>>> addition, this would certainly be backed by some of the governments
>>> from
>>> the 12 excluded countries (not to mention those that are not even part
>>> of G20). If there are no objection, I'm confident that Jeremy and Izumi
>>> could draft a good sentence to express this point.
>>>
>>> BTW, the website of the French presidency of G8-G20 is at:
>>> http://www.g20-g8.com <http://www.g20-g8.com/> , and there's an English
>>> version available.
>>>
>>> Finally one question: will the statement be submitted to NGO signatures
>>> (I mean especially outsite the IGC)?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Meryem
>>>
>>> Le 11 mai 2011 à 10:39, William Drake a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposed eG8 will not be a negotiating forum, any more than the
>>>>> IGF. In that respect, it is nothing like the G8 meetings proper. So I
>>>>> don't see that there is an inconsistency here.
>>>>
>>>> I had a different impression based on the side events of past 68
>>>> summits, For example the Okinawa summit released the World Ec Forum's
>>>> report and recs on the global digital divide (which I wrote) and the
>>>> main meeting endorsed their thrust and promised cash (which generally
>>>> failed to materialize). Other summits have made similarly declarations
>>>> on cybersecurity and whatnot that came in part from non-IGO adjuncts.
>>>> And the news reportage on this one
>>>> http://www.telecompaper.com/news/internet-g8-to-be-held-in-paris-on-24-25-may
>>>> says The "Internet G8", a conference to be held in Paris on 24-25 May
>>>> before the official G8 summit in Deauville, has been conceived t*o
>>>> generate debate and ultimately a set of proposals from private sector
>>>> stakeholders for the consideration of the eight heads of government,*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Maybe our French colleagues can clarify the precise agenda, but from
>>>> what I'd hear this may be another one of those international events in
>>>> which Sarko tries to launch some big new initiatives that's not been
>>>> fully vetted with counterpart countries. In this context, it'd be
>>>> surprising if there are no recs or declarations of any sort being
>>>> provided by the private sector heavies he's assembled. And if so, then
>>>> the IGF is sort of an odd model to say they should follow, no?
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe I'm missing something....
>>>>
>>>> Bill
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