AW: And G20? Re: [governance] Internet G8 meeting

Wed May 11 08:19:00 EDT 2011

Ig you go to the G 20 website and click "The French Priorities" there is nothing related to the Internet. This is a an interesting gap. Intentionally? They did just forget it? Or they do not want to talk about the Internet with Brasil, India and China?   The G 20 summit is planned for Cannes in November 2011. Another nice "film festivalö" and an opportonity for a stresstext how serious MS in IG is taken by governments.  

Wolfgang

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Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Meryem Marzouki
Gesendet: Mi 11.05.2011 11:59
An: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Betreff: Re: And G20? Re: [governance] Internet G8 meeting

And why not the G20? Just curious about the arguments.
Meryem

Le 11 mai 2011 à 11:56, Jeanette Hofmann a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> I think it is too late to change the statement since the voting has started.
>
> I have voted already but would want to withdraw my support for the statement if we would change it and now suggest that the G20 is our preferred group to address Internet policies.
>
> jeanette
>
> On 11.05.2011 11:38, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sorry, I'm jumping in even later than Bill!
>>
>> I think the statement is OK w.r.t. Bill's comment, precisely because, as
>> Jeremy pointed, it asks for the eG8, and not the G8 itself, to be open
>> to other stakeholders. That doesn't contradict the fact that the G8 will
>> probably adopt at least some kind of declaration, on the basis of the
>> eG8 conclusions.
>>
>> But I would like to suggest an addition, which I think wouldn't
>> radically change the statement and is in line with IGC positions so far.
>> This year and under the French presidency, there's not only the G8
>> Summit (26-27 May in Dauville) but also the G20 Summit (3-4 November in
>> Cannes). It's particularly noticeable that the e-thing is held under the
>> G8 and not the G20.
>>
>> Maybe we can add a sentence (related to our statement that " policies
>> framed together by the most powerful nations, quite likely, will become
>> the default global norm", 5th para) stating that Internet issues should
>> have been addressed by the G20 rather than the G8. I think that, in
>> addition, this would certainly be backed by some of the governments from
>> the 12 excluded countries (not to mention those that are not even part
>> of G20). If there are no objection, I'm confident that Jeremy and Izumi
>> could draft a good sentence to express this point.
>>
>> BTW, the website of the French presidency of G8-G20 is at:
>> http://www.g20-g8.com <http://www.g20-g8.com/> , and there's an English version available.
>>
>> Finally one question: will the statement be submitted to NGO signatures
>> (I mean especially outsite the IGC)?
>>
>> Best,
>> Meryem
>>
>> Le 11 mai 2011 à 10:39, William Drake a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 11, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The proposed eG8 will not be a negotiating forum, any more than the
>>>> IGF. In that respect, it is nothing like the G8 meetings proper. So I
>>>> don't see that there is an inconsistency here.
>>>
>>> I had a different impression based on the side events of past 68
>>> summits, For example the Okinawa summit released the World Ec Forum's
>>> report and recs on the global digital divide (which I wrote) and the
>>> main meeting endorsed their thrust and promised cash (which generally
>>> failed to materialize). Other summits have made similarly declarations
>>> on cybersecurity and whatnot that came in part from non-IGO adjuncts.
>>> And the news reportage on this one
>>> http://www.telecompaper.com/news/internet-g8-to-be-held-in-paris-on-24-25-may
>>> says The "Internet G8", a conference to be held in Paris on 24-25 May
>>> before the official G8 summit in Deauville, has been conceived t*o
>>> generate debate and ultimately a set of proposals from private sector
>>> stakeholders for the consideration of the eight heads of government,*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> Maybe our French colleagues can clarify the precise agenda, but from
>>> what I'd hear this may be another one of those international events in
>>> which Sarko tries to launch some big new initiatives that's not been
>>> fully vetted with counterpart countries. In this context, it'd be
>>> surprising if there are no recs or declarations of any sort being
>>> provided by the private sector heavies he's assembled. And if so, then
>>> the IGF is sort of an odd model to say they should follow, no?
>>>
>>> Or maybe I'm missing something....
>>>
>>> Bill
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