AW: [governance] Re: FW: [OIA] MS & Skype?

[Adam Peake]

>besides, becasue of the security hole for OSX, 
>it isn't even usable anymore on MAC.


does this fix?

<http://blogs.skype.com/garage/2011/05/2nd_hotfix_for_skype_51_for_ma_release_notes.html>

Adam



>let Microsoft have it.
>lets use Jabber instead.
>
>(does google talk use SIP?)
>
>a.
>
>
>On 10 May 2011, at 16:11, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
>
>>  Thanks Stephane
>>  1+ and full support.
>>
>>  w
>>
>>
>>  ________________________________
>>
>>  Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Stephane Bortzmeyer
>>  Gesendet: Di 10.05.2011 21:55
>>  An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein
>>  Betreff: [governance] Re: FW: [OIA] MS & Skype?
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:49:24AM -0700,
>>  Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote
>>  a message of 51 lines which said:
>>
>>>  I'm not exactly sure how/where this should be covered in IG
>>>  discussions but even from a purely self-interested CS perspective
>>>  there is an absolute need to begin to work towards some sort of
>>>  global institutional/regulatory framework to ensure the preservation
>>>  of a public interest in a global virtual public space and public
>>>  capacity for very low cost IP enabled international communications
>>>  (a la skype).
>>
>>  I fail to see why the fate of the private company Skype, which
>>  produces a closed software using undocumented proprietary protocols
>>  could be a subject for CS.
>>
>>  I agree that "preservation of a public interest in a global virtual
>>  public space" and "very low cost IP enabled international
>>  communications" are good goals. But Skype is the very counter-example
>>  of what we should aim for. Specially, the fact that the source code is
>>  hidden from its users is there to hide shameful practices such as
>>  enrolling users as "supernodes" without asking their advice or even
>>  informing them (see
>> 
>><http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t727931-skype-fixed-supernodes-list.html>
>>  and the list in
>>  <http://cryptolib.com/ciphers/skype/skype_servers.txt>).
>>
>>  So, if CS is interested in "preservation of a public interest in a
>>  global virtual public space", it should push the use of open protocols
>>  for instant messaging and voice over Internet (XMPP and SIP), not to
>>  encourage closed software.
>>
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