AW: [governance] Re: FW: [OIA] MS & Skype?

Carlos A. Afonso ca at cafonso.ca
Tue May 10 16:51:11 EDT 2011


Thx, Steph. +1 as well.

--c.a.

On 05/10/2011 05:11 PM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote:
> Thanks Stephane
> 1+ and full support. 
>  
> w
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> Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Stephane Bortzmeyer
> Gesendet: Di 10.05.2011 21:55
> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein
> Betreff: [governance] Re: FW: [OIA] MS & Skype?
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:49:24AM -0700,
>  Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote
>  a message of 51 lines which said:
> 
>> I'm not exactly sure how/where this should be covered in IG
>> discussions but even from a purely self-interested CS perspective
>> there is an absolute need to begin to work towards some sort of
>> global institutional/regulatory framework to ensure the preservation
>> of a public interest in a global virtual public space and public
>> capacity for very low cost IP enabled international communications
>> (a la skype).
> 
> I fail to see why the fate of the private company Skype, which
> produces a closed software using undocumented proprietary protocols
> could be a subject for CS.
> 
> I agree that "preservation of a public interest in a global virtual
> public space" and "very low cost IP enabled international
> communications" are good goals. But Skype is the very counter-example
> of what we should aim for. Specially, the fact that the source code is
> hidden from its users is there to hide shameful practices such as
> enrolling users as "supernodes" without asking their advice or even
> informing them (see
> <http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t727931-skype-fixed-supernodes-list.html>
> and the list in
> <http://cryptolib.com/ciphers/skype/skype_servers.txt>).
> 
> So, if CS is interested in "preservation of a public interest in a
> global virtual public space", it should push the use of open protocols
> for instant messaging and voice over Internet (XMPP and SIP), not to
> encourage closed software.
> 
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