AW: [governance] Re: FW: [OIA] MS & Skype?

[Avri Doria]

besides, becasue of the security hole for OSX, it isn't even usable anymore on MAC.
let Microsoft have it.
lets use Jabber instead.

(does google talk use SIP?)

a.


On 10 May 2011, at 16:11, Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:

> Thanks Stephane
> 1+ and full support. 
> 
> w
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> Von: governance at lists.cpsr.org im Auftrag von Stephane Bortzmeyer
> Gesendet: Di 10.05.2011 21:55
> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein
> Betreff: [governance] Re: FW: [OIA] MS & Skype?
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> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 07:49:24AM -0700,
> Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote
> a message of 51 lines which said:
> 
>> I'm not exactly sure how/where this should be covered in IG
>> discussions but even from a purely self-interested CS perspective
>> there is an absolute need to begin to work towards some sort of
>> global institutional/regulatory framework to ensure the preservation
>> of a public interest in a global virtual public space and public
>> capacity for very low cost IP enabled international communications
>> (a la skype).
> 
> I fail to see why the fate of the private company Skype, which
> produces a closed software using undocumented proprietary protocols
> could be a subject for CS.
> 
> I agree that "preservation of a public interest in a global virtual
> public space" and "very low cost IP enabled international
> communications" are good goals. But Skype is the very counter-example
> of what we should aim for. Specially, the fact that the source code is
> hidden from its users is there to hide shameful practices such as
> enrolling users as "supernodes" without asking their advice or even
> informing them (see
> <http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t727931-skype-fixed-supernodes-list.html>
> and the list in
> <http://cryptolib.com/ciphers/skype/skype_servers.txt>).
> 
> So, if CS is interested in "preservation of a public interest in a
> global virtual public space", it should push the use of open protocols
> for instant messaging and voice over Internet (XMPP and SIP), not to
> encourage closed software.
> 
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