[governance] my humble proposal to add one para
michael gurstein
gurstein at gmail.com
Fri Mar 25 11:52:17 EDT 2011
Izumi,
I'm hoping that my note didn't discourage you. I think what you are
proposing is very important... One of the things that I realized in our
earlier discussions was how completely unprepared we are in Vancouver in
these areas and anything that could stimulate some work/thinking/planning on
ICT prep now would I'm quite sure save multiple lives if/when we have a
major occurrence in Vancouver, which as you perhaps know sits adjacent to
some quite active volcanic fault lines.
M
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Izumi AIZU <aizu at anr.org> wrote:
> At this point, I am sort of backing off, I mean the level of discussion now
> ongoing is not conducive to bring in new points without having good amount
> of time left.
>
> We could a) propose to form a workshop around this subject, and also
> b) make comments after the CSTD WG report is published, with May
> open consultation in mind.
>
> I also see there are different aspects between developing and developed
> countries, BUT, in Japan, some of the areas most severely damaged
> are far less developed parts of the country, something in common
> with developing countries, at least to some degree.
> That's why I put
> "the developing parts of the globe and the people" instead of
> "developing countries".
>
> But in any case thanks a lot for your support and considerations.
>
> izumi
>
>
> 2011/3/25 michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>:
> > One observation that I'ld to make, based on the earlier discussions re:
> > Japan with Izumi and all is that if/when a disaster occurs in a Developed
> > Country it will have significantly different impacts and also require
> > significantly different responses (particularly in ICT areas) from those
> > that have (now) been developed for LDC's. I'm going into this in some
> more
> > detail in the blogpost I'll be trying to get out later today but I think
> > this distinction should be noted and will likely have ripple effects into
> > the role/response of Internet Governance as well.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey you're there, we're remote kibbitzers, so up to you how to play.
> >>
> >> But you are talking about a specific category of issues...ie Internet
> >> governance in- crises? Natural disasters? Which is distinct from - day
> to
> >> day Internet governance.
> >>
> >> And major aspect in those contexts is - coordination, or lack thereof,
> >> across civil society, business and government, albeit tech community and
> >> civil society are doing things...like the crisis commons example.
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: izumiaizu at gmail.com [izumiaizu at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Izumi AIZU
> >> [aizu at anr.org]
> >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 10:32 AM
> >> To: Lee W McKnight
> >> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro; Jeanette
> >> Hofmann; Anriette Esterhuysen
> >> Subject: Re: [governance] my humble proposal to add one para
> >>
> >> I am having difficulty in putting this into the context of the draft
> >> proposal.
> >> Most languages are rather general, not quite specific, ie to "disaster",
> >> and thus putting examples such as "critical commons" though I am tempted
> >> to suggest, may also look inappropriate.
> >>
> >> Let me see how the current discussion, finally starting to discuss para
> by
> >> para
> >> of the draft with less than 3 hours left.
> >>
> >> izumi
> >>
> >> 2011/3/25 Lee W McKnight <lmcknigh at syr.edu>:
> >> > Izumi, if you think it might help to point to a specific civil society
> >> > project as an example..and I am not affiliated just suggesting - maybe
> point
> >> > to 'crisis commons.'
> >> >
> >> > Lee
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf
> Of
> >> > Izumi AIZU [aizu at anr.org]
> >> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:11 AM
> >> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> >> > Cc: Jeanette Hofmann; Anriette Esterhuysen
> >> > Subject: Re: [governance] my humble proposal to add one para
> >> >
> >> > yes, thanks for the reminder, Jeanette, I remember that session
> >> > including
> >> > the successful support of ccTLD from outside.
> >> >
> >> > And thanks for other comments, I will try to modify the words to
> >> > reflect them.
> >> >
> >> > izumi
> >> >
> >> > 2011/3/25 Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro
> >> > <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>:
> >> >> Thanks Jeanette.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just as a reminder, the main session on critical internet resources
> in
> >> >>> Vilnius did address this issue. We talked about Haiti and its
> >> >>> repercussions
> >> >>> for infrastructure recovery. Some civil society people - I won't
> >> >>> mention
> >> >>> names - regarded this issue on the agenda as an attempt to water
> down
> >> >>> or
> >> >>> sidestep the actual political issues.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> jeanette
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 25.03.2011 11:04, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> What about using disasters, and how policy processes should respond
> >> >>>> to
> >> >>>> this, as one of the examples of 'policy questions' to be discussed
> at
> >> >>>> the IGF in the proposals on clearer outcomes? Then you can mention
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> specific recent disasters as examples.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Anriette
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 25/03/11 11:56, Izumi AIZU wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I am not sure if this falls within the scope of CSTD WG, but I
> >> >>>>> cannot
> >> >>>>> help propose to add something like the following words:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> What do you guys think?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ---
> >> >>>>> In view of the tragedic earthquake in Haiti in 2010 and the recent
> >> >>>>> earthquake
> >> >>>>> and Tsunami occurred in Japan, inter alia, the members of the
> >> >>>>> Working
> >> >>>>> Group
> >> >>>>> recommend that future IGF should address the role of Internet and
> >> >>>>> its
> >> >>>>> governance
> >> >>>>> against natural and man-made disasters as one of the emerging
> >> >>>>> issues,
> >> >>>>> taking
> >> >>>>> account the paragraph 72 (g) emerging issues and paragraph 91 (on
> >> >>>>> disaster
> >> >>>>> reduction, sustainable development and poverty eradication) of the
> >> >>>>> Tunis
> >> >>>>> Agenda .
> >> >>>>> ---
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> izumi
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