[governance] Re: The Internet (as we know it) can never be "private"

[Sonigitu Ekpe]

Thank you Roland.

People feel fine once they get quality services.

The discussion thread do not need leapfogging, but the way forward.

Warm wishes,

Sonigitu

On 17 Jul 2011 12:09, "Roland Perry" <roland at internetpolicyagency.com>
wrote:

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at 22:18:25 on Sun, 17 Jul 2011, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
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writes



> I would like to link the reason why I asked the questions back to the
> general thread: if the i...
Airlines are "public" transport (in the sense that anyone can use them. They
are even publicly owned in some cases (less so in modern times I agree).
None of this makes it the same price to fly inside Africa (which I
understand is also an issue) as to fly inside Europe or the USA.



>  I do not know much about Kenya except for the little I have read but I
> will say this, it is e...
People are entitles to complain, but I am also entitled to point out that
there are good reasons for the difference in costs. It's not a conspiracy by
the developed world, and indeed much of the developed world had the same
costs as recently as a decade ago. Rather than sit waiting for someone to
give you a free lunch, why not try to solve the problem by investing in
connectivity, just like everyone else had to?



> I don't think the paper agreed with you, it actually disagreed with
> your position.

It agreed with me that it's users (not ISPs) who pay. That's half the
original proposition shot down in flames. Yes, we disagree from there
onwards!



> In principle, the point is that an ordinary user in a
> developing world (Kenya) had to be force...
They aren't being forced to pay *anyone* else's cost. The cost is the cost
of connecting to the Internet. It's not my fault they currently live
somewhere far from the Interconnections which *define* "The Internet", and
that Americans live nearer.

You might as well say it's someone's fault that a Kenyan has to pay a
fortune in travelling expense to visit Disneyland, but a Florida resident
doesn't. Answer: build your own Disneyland closer to home, rather than
forcing an airline to cross the Atlantic for nothing.



> Back to the internet as a "public" good - if it is how then can the
> governance forum address t...
If you want to fix the problem (and there *is* a problem), then *please*
express it using the correct parameters. You'll never make progress trying
to cure the *wrong* disease, any more than you'll cure a brain tumour by
taking aspirin for the headache (or passing a law that says everyone must
have cheap aspirin available).

Roland.

> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Roland Perry <
> roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:
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> >  2011, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@
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