[governance] Re: The Internet (as we know it) can never be "private"

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Sun Jul 17 05:05:58 EDT 2011


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1931120.stm

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <
salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:

> You probably have read this already but I invite you to read the article
> below:
>  Esmat, B and Fernandez ,J.  *International Internet Connections Costs*
>
> in Reforming Internet Governance (Perspectives
>
> from the Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG))
>
> Edited by William J Drake
>
>
>  This was raised as an issue in terms of discussions on internet
> governance, see:
> http://www.intgovforum.org/Substantive_1st_IGF/APC_IGC_IIC_final.pdf
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Roland Perry <
> roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:
>
>> In message <CAJwbTiCFE9FnBR3Nhnj+**5oanRptRH1K=RL6Yuw0RQjxQxe1aNQ**
>> @mail.gmail.com <RL6Yuw0RQjxQxe1aNQ at mail.gmail.com>>, at 09:12:02 on Sun,
>> 17 Jul 2011, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@**
>> gmail.com <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>> writes
>>
>>  Question
>>>
>>> Why is it that when someone from Kenya emails someone from the US, the
>>> ISP in Kenya pays?
>>>
>>> Why is that when someone from the US emails someone from Kenya, the ISP
>>> in Kenya still pays
>>>
>>
>> Firstly, it would the ISP customer who is paying (through their
>> subscriptions).
>>
>> Secondly, we must examine what they are paying *for*. At the most basic
>> level it's "a connection to the Internet". (And emails are sent and received
>> over that connection).
>>
>> So what is "the Internet"? It's a set of interconnected networks.
>>
>> What the customer is therefore paying for is his ISP to operate the
>> 'local' network *plus* establish and maintain the interconnects with other
>> networks.
>>
>> For historical reasons, the early *international* interconnects were on
>> the East and West coast of the USA. So an ISP customer in Chicago will be at
>> the very least paying for his ISP to haul the traffic halfway across the
>> USA.
>>
>> As time went on, and there was more traffic in places like Europe, ISPs
>> built additional interconnects that were cheaper for them. So an ISP
>> customer in Paris might only pay for his ISP to operate the network inside
>> France (to exchange emails with other Frenchmen, entirely at the cost of the
>> French) plus an Interconnect to London, Amsterdam or Frakkfurt; rather than
>> "plus an Interconnect to New York".
>>
>> Unfortunately, the regulatory regime in some parts of the world made it
>> very difficult to establish new local interconnects, let alone international
>> ones. And to some extent the users in those areas are "paying" for that.
>>
>> There's also an economy of scale, and a need for bold investment, when it
>> comes to laying new International connectivity.
>>
>> So the answer to your question is "no, the user in Kenya isn't paying for
>> the emails in both directions, they are paying for their local connectivity
>> plus a share of the connectivity to an International hub. The user in the
>> USA is paying exactly the same.
>> --
>> Roland Perry
>>
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>
> --
> Sala
>
> "Stillness in the midst of the noise".
>
>


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Sala

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