[governance] Re: The Internet (as we know it) can never be "private"

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Sun Jul 17 03:44:01 EDT 2011


You probably have read this already but I invite you to read the article
below:
 Esmat, B and Fernandez ,J.  *International Internet Connections Costs*

in Reforming Internet Governance (Perspectives

from the Working Group on Internet Governance (WGIG))

Edited by William J Drake


 This was raised as an issue in terms of discussions on internet governance,
see:http://www.intgovforum.org/Substantive_1st_IGF/APC_IGC_IIC_final.pdf


On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Roland Perry <
roland at internetpolicyagency.com> wrote:

> In message <CAJwbTiCFE9FnBR3Nhnj+**5oanRptRH1K=RL6Yuw0RQjxQxe1aNQ**
> @mail.gmail.com <RL6Yuw0RQjxQxe1aNQ at mail.gmail.com>>, at 09:12:02 on Sun,
> 17 Jul 2011, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@**
> gmail.com <salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com>> writes
>
>  Question
>>
>> Why is it that when someone from Kenya emails someone from the US, the ISP
>> in Kenya pays?
>>
>> Why is that when someone from the US emails someone from Kenya, the ISP in
>> Kenya still pays
>>
>
> Firstly, it would the ISP customer who is paying (through their
> subscriptions).
>
> Secondly, we must examine what they are paying *for*. At the most basic
> level it's "a connection to the Internet". (And emails are sent and received
> over that connection).
>
> So what is "the Internet"? It's a set of interconnected networks.
>
> What the customer is therefore paying for is his ISP to operate the 'local'
> network *plus* establish and maintain the interconnects with other networks.
>
> For historical reasons, the early *international* interconnects were on the
> East and West coast of the USA. So an ISP customer in Chicago will be at the
> very least paying for his ISP to haul the traffic halfway across the USA.
>
> As time went on, and there was more traffic in places like Europe, ISPs
> built additional interconnects that were cheaper for them. So an ISP
> customer in Paris might only pay for his ISP to operate the network inside
> France (to exchange emails with other Frenchmen, entirely at the cost of the
> French) plus an Interconnect to London, Amsterdam or Frakkfurt; rather than
> "plus an Interconnect to New York".
>
> Unfortunately, the regulatory regime in some parts of the world made it
> very difficult to establish new local interconnects, let alone international
> ones. And to some extent the users in those areas are "paying" for that.
>
> There's also an economy of scale, and a need for bold investment, when it
> comes to laying new International connectivity.
>
> So the answer to your question is "no, the user in Kenya isn't paying for
> the emails in both directions, they are paying for their local connectivity
> plus a share of the connectivity to an International hub. The user in the
> USA is paying exactly the same.
> --
> Roland Perry
>
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-- 
Sala

"Stillness in the midst of the noise".
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