[governance] CSTD IX. Conclusions and recommendations

[Michael Gurstein]

The problem Yrjo, is that in the absence of something as a positive output
of the IGF then things are left more or less as they are, as the default.
 
If we are comfortable/satisfied with the status quo (however we perceive the
status quo), that isn't a problem. If we aren't satisfied with the status
quo then there is a perceived need to work through the process of having the
status quo articulated and then responded to so as to move the situation
forward.
 
Mike

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[mailto:governance-request at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Yrjö Länsipuro
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 10:23 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: RE: [governance] CSTD IX. Conclusions and recommendations


Dear all, 

Over the years, the view has been  expressed time and again that the main
outcomes of the IGF are those impressions, new ideas and conclusions carried
home by its individual participants, to be used by them as input on whatever
other internet-related fora (decision-making or not)  they are active.

I  subscribe to this view. These thousands of individual outcomes are much
more effective than a piece of paper, painfully negotiated before and and
during the event, that nobody will read but that will be  a  proof that IGF
achieved "results", for those bureaucrats and politicians who need something
to put ad actam.

At the same time, it does not hurt to try to go a step further achieving
conclusions at workshops  and  "messages" (as proposed by Wolfgang) from the
IGF itself. But these efforts should not take time from the main purpose of
the IGF. 

Best,

Yrjö



> From: nb at bollow.ch
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:45:26 +0100
> Subject: Re: [governance] CSTD IX. Conclusions and recommendations
> 
> Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
> 
> > I have tried to argue for more outcome oriented workshops. They should 
> > define some form of a goal in their workshop proposal. Alas, outcome 
> > orientation is a cultural issue as well. Many people in the 
> > international sphere tend to think in procedural terms. Perhaps we are 
> > just a bit demanding in this respect?
> 
> I think that it well-justified and quite necessary to be justly "a bit
> demanding in this respect".
> 
> For some activity to be meaningful, it will quite generally need to
> have some kind of output that becomes input for something else. Of
> course, some of the potential results from discussions are of a kind
> that is not compatible with the idea of recording them in some kind
> of formal "output" document, and that does not make those kinds of
> informal outputs any less valuable.
> 
> Greetings,
> Norbert
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