[governance] CSTD IX. Conclusions and recommendations

[parminder]

Yrjö Länsipuro wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> Over the years, the view has been  expressed time and again that the 
> main outcomes of the IGF are those impressions, new ideas and 
> conclusions carried home by its individual participants, to be used by 
> them as input on whatever other internet-related fora (decision-making 
> or not)  they are active.
Yrjo

How would that be different from any global IG conference that any 
private party can hold and many of them do get hled,  from where the 
participatants take home whatever they choose or not to take home, Is 
then IGF just another global IG conference?
>
> I  subscribe to this view. These thousands of individual outcomes are 
> much more effective than a piece of paper, painfully negotiated before 
> and and during the event, that nobody will read but that will be  a 
>  proof that IGF achieved "results", for those bureaucrats and 
> politicians who need something to put /ad actam/.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and before that Magna Carta, 
or the constitution of India of of Finland may as well be considered 
painfully negotiated but largely useless pieces of paper. Your statement 
just bespeaks a distrust of politics and governance, and this is merely 
an one sided ideological position, contributing little of substance to 
the real debate.
>
> At the same time, it does not hurt to try to go a step further 
> achieving conclusions at workshops  and  "messages" (as proposed by 
> Wolfgang) from the IGF itself. But these efforts should not take time 
> from the main purpose of the IGF.

Who decides what is the main purpose of the IGF? I think it is written 
in the Tunis Agenda, as well as the recent UN General Assembly's 
directions to improve the IGF towards some specific purposes.

Parminder
>
> Best,
>
> Yrjö
>
>
>
> > From: nb at bollow.ch
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:45:26 +0100
> > Subject: Re: [governance] CSTD IX. Conclusions and recommendations
> >
> > Jeanette Hofmann <jeanette at wzb.eu> wrote:
> >
> > > I have tried to argue for more outcome oriented workshops. They 
> should
> > > define some form of a goal in their workshop proposal. Alas, outcome
> > > orientation is a cultural issue as well. Many people in the
> > > international sphere tend to think in procedural terms. Perhaps we 
> are
> > > just a bit demanding in this respect?
> >
> > I think that it well-justified and quite necessary to be justly "a bit
> > demanding in this respect".
> >
> > For some activity to be meaningful, it will quite generally need to
> > have some kind of output that becomes input for something else. Of
> > course, some of the potential results from discussions are of a kind
> > that is not compatible with the idea of recording them in some kind
> > of formal "output" document, and that does not make those kinds of
> > informal outputs any less valuable.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
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