[governance] Phase 2 of improvements to the IGC Web site

[Don Cameron]

> Additionally, if "the current membership list is on the basis of those who voted in the last election," what happens to those who did not vote for whatever reason?

 

David this point is exactly my concern and the reason I entered this conversation – We cannot claim professionalism unless we follow open and proper process.

 

In several unfortunate personalisation’s I and others have loosely been described as ‘lurkers’; ‘internet old timers’, and now in defining the right to abstain from voting, as someone who ‘doesn’t want to vote’ – yet none of these negative descriptors address the very real issue of one persons interpretation of an organisational Charter being used to discriminate against membership. That’s what this discussion is all about.

 

Power building – yes. Democratic – no. 

 

There would appear to be a loan voice on this forum promoting both a need for a membership database as well as a need for the Charter to be changed. A majority would appear to be against such change; yet change is happening regardless.

 

The right of members for lazy consensus before the implementation of any change is discarded for the sake of one person’s interpretation of systems expediency.

 

Is this a right and proper process?

 

Don      



 

From: governance-request at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of David Goldstein
Sent: Sunday, 9 January 2011 11:52 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Jeremy Malcolm; Don Cameron
Subject: Re: [governance] Phase 2 of improvements to the IGC Web site

 

This process is absurd Jeremy and makes a mockery any sort of a democracy.

It seems like empire building for the sake of empire building. Ten year old kids couldn't make more of a mess of this in organising a school play club. Actually, they'd do a much better job.

Additionally, if "the current membership list is on the basis of those who voted in the last election," what happens to those who did not vote for whatever reason?

David

 

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From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
To: Don Cameron <dg_cameron at bigpond.com>; governance at lists.cpsr.org
Sent: Sun, 9 January, 2011 10:39:56 PM
Subject: Re: [governance] Phase 2 of improvements to the IGC Web site

On 09/01/2011, at 7:09 PM, Don Cameron wrote:





The charter further defines self modification (moves to change the charter) as follows: “In amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for amending the charter”.

 

This certainly impacts on the right to vote for charter modifications, however it otherwise has no impact on membership.

 

Well, so some say, but others (including myself) interpret it otherwise.  The current membership list is on the basis of those who voted in the last election.  If we want to clarify this, we need to amend the charter.

 

In other news, I have properly fixed the LDAP errors that were preventing people from editing their profiles to add extra optional profile information (such as addresses and phone numbers), after they had registered.  Sorry about that.

 

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