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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>>
Additionally, if "the current membership list is on the basis of those who
voted in the last election," what happens to those who did not vote for
whatever reason?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>David
this point is exactly my concern and the reason I entered this conversation – We
cannot claim professionalism unless we follow open and proper process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>In
several unfortunate personalisation’s I and others have loosely been described
as ‘lurkers’; ‘internet old timers’, and now in defining the right to abstain from
voting, as someone who ‘doesn’t want to vote’ – yet none of these negative descriptors
address the very real issue of one persons interpretation of an organisational Charter
being used to discriminate against membership. That’s what this discussion is
all about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Power
building – yes. Democratic – no. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>There
would appear to be a loan voice on this forum promoting both a need for a
membership database as well as a need for the Charter to be changed. A majority
would appear to be against such change; yet change is happening regardless.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The
right of members for lazy consensus before the implementation of any change is
discarded for the sake of one person’s interpretation of systems expediency.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Is
this a right and proper process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Don
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance-request@lists.cpsr.org
[mailto:governance-request@lists.cpsr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Goldstein<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 9 January 2011 11:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Jeremy Malcolm; Don Cameron<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Phase 2 of improvements to the IGC Web site<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>This
process is absurd Jeremy and makes a mockery any sort of a democracy.<br>
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It seems like empire building for the sake of empire building. Ten year old
kids couldn't make more of a mess of this in organising a school play club.
Actually, they'd do a much better job.<br>
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Additionally, if "the current membership list is on the basis of those who
voted in the last election," what happens to those who did not vote for
whatever reason?<br>
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David<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy@ciroap.org><br>
<b>To:</b> Don Cameron <dg_cameron@bigpond.com>;
governance@lists.cpsr.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sun, 9 January, 2011 10:39:56 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Phase 2 of improvements to the IGC Web site</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On 09/01/2011, at 7:09 PM, Don Cameron wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The
charter further defines self modification (moves to change the charter) as
follows: “</span><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In
amending the charter, everyone who voted in the previous election will be
deemed a member for amending the charter”.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>This
certainly impacts on the right to vote for charter modifications, however it
otherwise has no impact on membership.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Well, so some say, but others (including myself) interpret
it otherwise. The current membership list is on the basis of those who
voted in the last election. If we want to clarify this, we need to amend
the charter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>In other news, I have properly fixed the LDAP errors that were
preventing people from editing their profiles to add extra optional profile
information (such as addresses and phone numbers), after they had registered.
Sorry about that.<o:p></o:p></p>
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