[governance] China supports UK Internet Policy

[Roland Perry]

In message <4E5116A4.7020502 at gmail.com>, at 17:31:00 on Sun, 21 Aug 
2011, Riaz K Tayob <riaz.tayob at gmail.com> writes
>In all of these issues there is the Human Rights requirement of 
>proportionality.
>
>It is easy to turn it all off, or to violate the piracy of many.

Exactly so, just as physical curfew does. That's why I think it's a good 
analogy, and either form of curfew needs to be imposed only when it's 
necessary and proportionate.

>In what circumstances would this be justified given the ambivalent 
>nature of technology (i.e. snooping and deep packet searching are 
>technologies that impose obligations on the state too, why cut when 
>these are available)? Funny how so much of this "spy" stuff is used to 
>track ordinary folk but can't catch a Madoff!

"You should see the other guy" is never a good justification for one's 
own wrongdoing.

Roland.

>On 2011/08/20 03:44 PM, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message 
>><CA+=oXBJQ1-8bBtka4vrzCUGBEPGW2cw90ZGZ=KS9P__GKZsgmQ at mail.gmail.com>, 
>>at 08:31:36 on Sat, 20 Aug 2011, Ivar A. M. Hartmann 
>><ivarhartmann at gmail.com> writes
>>> We can't forget that a curfew is a impediment on actions (violence, 
>>>theft etc) and will therefore always be something different than 
>>>cutting off communications or the free flow of information 
>>>(incitements of violence, threats, planning of crimes).
>>
>> I disagree. A curfew doesn't just operate inside shops which are 
>>being  looted. It applies to a neighbourhood, where people in the 
>>streets are  simply planning on robbing and burning, or even planning 
>>on assembling  in order to decide where to rob and burn.
>>
>>> After we blur the difference between stopping criminal actions 
>>>themselves and censoring communication that arguably leads to such 
>>>actions, it's only downhill from there..
>>
>> Censorship is about selective barring of communications. A curfew 
>>bars  them all.
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