[governance] Re: Good contribution on IP addresses and Internet Governance

[Daniel Kalchev]

On 26.04.11 11:03, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <BANLkTi=S_WEvjmjoTSzAC0pWj=UAVunXUg at mail.gmail.com>, at 
> 08:14:41 on Tue, 26 Apr 2011, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> writes
>
>> It's only if you are a large (for the most part) corporate or ISP that
>> you go to your RIR to satisfy your IP addressing needs.
>
> Or if you are an organisation such as an IXP or perhaps a cctld 
> operator, that wants to be neutral and independent from a commercial 
> upstream.
>
> I realise that some people would characterise such organisations as 
> ISPs, but that definition is often clouded by assumptions that ISPs 
> need to have "connectivity customers" in order to be differentiated 
> from "end users".
This assumption is grossly distorted. You are an ISP, if you provide any 
"Internet" services, to anyone. That would classify DNS operators as 
ISPs as well.

The RIR's assumption about ISPs is that these entities lease the IP 
addresses to end users for the duration of the service. Thus the ISP 
gets allocated larger chunk that they need for their own operation, in 
order to accommodate such activity. By this definition, hosting and 
collocation companies would also fall in the ISP category, although they 
do not provide end connectivity.

There needs to be clear balance with future IP address distribution 
however. In Europe, if you want to be an independent resource holder, 
you have to pay RIPE about as much, as a small ISP would. This only 
makes trading the IP addresses cheaper more attractive option.

Daniel
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