On NN workshop RE: Re: [governance] Three IGC workshops ) NN FYI DIPLO

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Sat Apr 16 16:30:20 EDT 2011


Based on evidence we have gathered I can say that NN is certainly an issue in China and Brazil. Carriers there have installed DPI to manage bandwidth, block BitTorrent and other p2p applications, and to censor. Brazilian colleagues have told me stories (not confirmed, of course, as I haven't spent much time there) about big carriers acting worse than the worst of the US ones. I can refer you to academic papers by computer scientists and network engineers advocating the use of DPI on mobile networks to throttle traffic. So the issue is quite relevant to BRICs.

In my 2007 paper I argued that content blocking and filtering was a deviation from the NN principle, and many LDCs organize their network in NN-hostile ways precisely because they want to censor content. So to answer Fouad, the NN debates in less developed countries like Pakistan often devolves into a debate over Internet freedom and censorship. Fouad may be right that the policy makers in those countries don't know what NN means and think it is not relevant. But they sure do know what "internet freedom" means, and many of them don't want it.

From: governance at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Ivar A. M. Hartmann
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:29 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Fouad Bajwa
Subject: Re: On NN workshop RE: Re: [governance] Three IGC workshops ) NN FYI DIPLO

Fouad,
how about using whatever knowledge and experience on NN that is available in the US to improve the discussion on what NN means in developing countries?
What if one or two NN experts from the US exposed the context and important details of the issue in their country to another two panelists from developing countries who then pitch in and comment on what aspects of NN are indeed relevant for developing countries. And then everyone - and hopefully (active) workshop participants from developing countries - will take the discussion on from there.
This way the workgroup can benefit from this experience and knowledge while also preventing the debate from being steered by a developed-country interest on the subject.
I do think we can meet in the middle on this.
Best, Ivar
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:42, Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa at gmail.com<mailto:fouadbajwa at gmail.com>> wrote:
Typo:

sorry, the last paragraph had a typo: can has to be read as can't as follows:

"Secondly, my generation comes in with a different perspective and it
can't be changed or improved by failed perceptions"

 -- Fouad


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