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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>Based on evidence we have </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>gathered I can say that NN is certainly an issue in China and Brazil. Carriers there have installed DPI to manage bandwidth, block BitTorrent and other p2p applications, and to censor. Brazilian colleagues have told me stories (not confirmed, of course, as I haven’t spent much time there) about big carriers acting worse than the worst of the US ones. I can refer you to academic papers by computer scientists and network engineers advocating the use of DPI on mobile networks to throttle traffic. So the issue is quite relevant to BRICs. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'>In my 2007 paper I argued that content blocking and filtering was a deviation from the NN principle, and many LDCs organize their network in NN-hostile ways precisely because they want to censor content. So to answer Fouad, the NN debates in less developed countries like Pakistan often devolves into a debate over Internet freedom and censorship. Fouad may be right that the policy makers in those countries don’t know what NN means and think it is not relevant. But they sure do know what “internet freedom” means, and many of them don’t want it. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance@lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ivar A. M. Hartmann<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 15, 2011 8:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> governance@lists.cpsr.org; Fouad Bajwa<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: On NN workshop RE: Re: [governance] Three IGC workshops ) NN FYI DIPLO<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Fouad, <br>how about using whatever knowledge and experience on NN that is available in the US to improve the discussion on what NN means in developing countries? <br>What if one or two NN experts from the US exposed the context and important details of the issue in their country to another two panelists from developing countries who then pitch in and comment on what aspects of NN are indeed relevant for developing countries. And then everyone - and hopefully (active) workshop participants from developing countries - will take the discussion on from there.<br>This way the workgroup can benefit from this experience and knowledge while also preventing the debate from being steered by a developed-country interest on the subject.<br>I do think we can meet in the middle on this.<br>Best, Ivar<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:42, Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Typo:<br><br>sorry, the last paragraph had a typo: can has to be read as can't as follows:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>"Secondly, my generation comes in with a different perspective and it<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>can't be changed or improved by failed perceptions"<br><br> -- Fouad<br><span style='color:#888888'><br><br>--</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br> <a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/governance</a><br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a><br><br>Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t" target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>