[governance] ITU vs. ICANN

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Sat Oct 9 03:27:09 EDT 2010


It is very unlikely that ITU will be able to pass a resolution imposing 
itself on the ICANN. On the other hand, it is almost certain that US 
will not follow any such resolution to make the required changes in 
ICANN's structure. As for ICANN itself, it is simply not a party to the 
ITU system to have to pay heed to any of its resolutions etc, other than 
through its supervisory structure rooted in the US gov.

However what gets tabled and discussed at the ITU is a good barometer of 
how different countries look at this issue.

parminder

On Saturday 09 October 2010 05:35 AM, Marilyn Cade wrote:
>
> I both agree and urge some caution, John. It takes more work on the 
> 'ground' to support states
> that are challenged with learning about, and launching [whether 
> government or Private Sector/NGO] initiatives
> to bring vast new numbers of users onto the Internet/WWW/online services.
>
> If we leave the only solution to be events, workshops, etc organized 
> by the ITU, we are missing our
> own role, and responsibilities, and opportunities.
>
> Treaties are not good things, when they are top down. When they codify 
> national laws and agreements,
> they can add value. I am probably unique among business players, 
> having helped to change three major
> treaties/agreements  in my long ago past -- being at the table is a 
> vast challenge, and having a legitimate voice
> is even a greater challenge -- whether technical expert, business 
> executive, or NGO. Never underestimate the
> challenge to have a place at the table to provide gentle, informed, 
> 'advice' that just provides much needed
> information and facts that can help to support a negotiation.
>
> Treaty negotiations, by nature, preclude that. That is the risk. And 
> that is the oportunity -- it is not
> ITU versus ICANN. It is 'different models of consultation versus old 
> style discussions and negotiations.
>
> And the IGF is a key part of the new eco system.
>
> Marilyn Cade
>
>
>
> > From: jcurran at arin.net
> > To: avri at acm.org
> > CC: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:17:51 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [governance] ITU vs. ICANN
> >
> > > Bottom line, the provisions of the Plenipot are only binding upon 
> states with the consent of the state.
> >
> > You are correct in principle, but in practice treaties are rather
> > complicated objects which exist to facilitate cooperation on matters
> > of shared interest. I'm not going to make arguments on behalf of the
> > ITU, but will note that states participate for a wide range of 
> interests
> > and hence overwhelmingly seek to comply with resulting recommendations
> > (so that they may in turn benefit from recommendations in other areas).
> > While we may see the Internet as the most important topic of all, it is
> > only one of many being discussed at the ITU Plenipotentiary meeting. It
> > is far better to educate states so that they can make good 
> recommendations
> > than having to deal with bad recommendations after the fact...
> >
> > /John
> >
> > John Curran
> > President and CEO
> > ARIN
> >
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