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<font face="DejaVu Serif">It is very unlikely that ITU will be able to
pass a resolution imposing itself on the ICANN. On the other hand, it
is almost certain that US will not follow any such resolution to make
the required changes in ICANN's structure. As for ICANN itself, it is
simply not a party to the ITU system to have to pay heed to any of its
resolutions etc, other than through its supervisory structure rooted in
the US gov.<br>
<br>
However what gets tabled and discussed</font><font face="DejaVu Serif">
at the ITU </font><font face="DejaVu Serif"> is a good barometer of
how different countries look at this issue.<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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On Saturday 09 October 2010 05:35 AM, Marilyn Cade wrote:
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I both agree and urge some caution, John. It takes more work on the
'ground' to support states
<div>that are challenged with learning about, and launching [whether
government or Private Sector/NGO] initiatives</div>
<div>to bring vast new numbers of users onto the Internet/WWW/online
services. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>If we leave the only solution to be events, workshops, etc
organized by the ITU, we are missing our </div>
<div>own role, and responsibilities, and opportunities. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Treaties are not good things, when they are top down. When they
codify national laws and agreements,</div>
<div>they can add value. I am probably unique among business players,
having helped to change three major </div>
<div>treaties/agreements in my long ago past -- being at the table
is a vast challenge, and having a legitimate voice</div>
<div>is even a greater challenge -- whether technical expert,
business executive, or NGO. Never underestimate the</div>
<div>challenge to have a place at the table to provide gentle,
informed, 'advice' that just provides much needed</div>
<div>information and facts that can help to support a negotiation. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Treaty negotiations, by nature, preclude that. That is the risk.
And that is the oportunity -- it is not </div>
<div>ITU versus ICANN. It is 'different models of consultation versus
old style discussions and negotiations. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>And the IGF is a key part of the new eco system. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Marilyn Cade</div>
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> From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">jcurran@arin.net</a><br>
> To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><br>
> CC: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.cpsr.org">governance@lists.cpsr.org</a><br>
> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:17:51 -0400<br>
> Subject: Re: [governance] ITU vs. ICANN<br>
> <br>
> > Bottom line, the provisions of the Plenipot are only binding
upon states with the consent of the state.<br>
> <br>
> You are correct in principle, but in practice treaties are rather <br>
> complicated objects which exist to facilitate cooperation on
matters<br>
> of shared interest. I'm not going to make arguments on behalf of
the <br>
> ITU, but will note that states participate for a wide range of
interests <br>
> and hence overwhelmingly seek to comply with resulting
recommendations<br>
> (so that they may in turn benefit from recommendations in other
areas). <br>
> While we may see the Internet as the most important topic of all,
it is <br>
> only one of many being discussed at the ITU Plenipotentiary
meeting. It <br>
> is far better to educate states so that they can make good
recommendations<br>
> than having to deal with bad recommendations after the fact...<br>
> <br>
> /John<br>
> <br>
> John Curran<br>
> President and CEO<br>
> ARIN<br>
> <br>
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