[governance] Result of IGF negotiation - one observation
Katitza Rodriguez
katitza at eff.org
Fri Nov 26 10:54:45 EST 2010
This is NOT Izumi's comment. This was the comment of some government who
negotiated the UN GA Resolution, and his/her/they vision on it.
On 11/26/10 12:04 AM, Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote:
> Good points, indeed, for both Milton and Meryem.
> Thanks for that.
> I'd also thank Izumi for his efforts to keep us well informed in the
> whole course of these events, although I'don't share all the
> statements made.. Anyway, there will be a(nother) life after Geneva
> November 2010 ...
>
> All the best
> Jean-Louis Fullsack
> CSDPTT
>
>
>
>
> > Message du 25/11/10 00:08
> > De : "Carlos A. Afonso"
> > A : governance at lists.cpsr.org, "Milton L Mueller"
> > Copie à : "Izumi AIZU"
> > Objet : Re: [governance] Result of IGF negotiation - one observation
> >
> > Good points, Milton!
> >
> > --c.a.
> >
> > On 11/24/2010 08:59 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> > > Izumi
> > > I have a bit of trouble understanding your statements in this
> section:
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> However, in negotiations of this nature, while our key
> objectives were
> > >> secured, we could not win on every point. In particular, it is
> > >> regrettable that the text does not do more to talk up the
> successes of
> > >> the IGF to balance the negative thread of "acknowledging the
> calls for
> > >> improvements" (though happily diluted from "many calls" in
> the original
> > >> text),
> > >
> > > Is it your position that the IGF is an unqualified success
> that needs no improvement?
> > > That is certainly not my position, or even the position of the
> many people within this caucus that I know and talk to.
> > >
> > >> "recogniz(ing) the need for further discussion on the improvement
> > >> of its working methods" and "consideration of IGF
> > >> improvements....particular(ly) improving the preparation process
> > >> modalities and the work and the functioning of the
> Secretariat". These
> > >> several references to improvements in the text could for
> those with no
> > >> direct experience of the IGF give the erroneous impression of
> something
> > >> needing major change or even that the IGF is inherently
> flawed which is
> > >> clearly not the case.
> > >
> > > I do not understand the need for such a defensive approach to
> the IGF.
> > > The idea that any criticism or drive for improvement means
> that it is inherently flawed seems to reproduce the kind of
> polarization we saw when ICANN was challenged during the WSIS
> process. There were those who believed - quite erroneously, it
> turned out - that one must either defend it uncritically, or else
> one was supporting the ITU and a "UN takeover of the Internet."
> Those are false dichotomies and I see the same pattern being
> recreated here. Why?
> > >
> > > --MM
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