[governance] FINAL? DRAFT statement on enhanced cooperation
Marilia Maciel
mariliamaciel at gmail.com
Thu Nov 11 09:41:05 EST 2010
Dear Izumi and all,
I cannot take the lead on the mapping alone due time constraints, but I do
offer to work side by side with you and Jeremy and others interested to
perform this task.
Marilia
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org> wrote:
> Thank you Marilia for the very encouraging suggestion below.
> I was thinking something similar, but not as concrete as you described.
> I very much appreciate if you could take the lead to map out, not the
> co-coordinators
> on this excellent suggestion, hopefully ;-).
>
> Currently I can only think of wiki as a tool most of us may feel
> comfortable.
> As Jeremy noted, we will discuss and get back to you.
>
> In the mean time, however, if you guys have any other suggestion to allow
> us to share our work process such as writing statement, pleas let us know.
> I think we need cross-platform, easy-to-use, and easy-to-setup and maintain
> tools to consider.
>
> izumi
>
>
> 2010/11/11 Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>:
> > I feel I need to say that I am supporting this draft because I believe it
> is
> > the possible consensus we are able to reach by the end of the present
> week.
> >
> > But then I ned to ask: will the lively debate that is currently taking
> place
> > cease when we send our statement? I hope not, because the present
> statement
> > is definitely not an IGC position on EC. So the debate needs to continue,
> > both on what was called “core EC” and “broader conditions for EC”: how to
> > define it? do we need it? in which ares? how to implement it? If we don’t
> > have a proposal to put on the table and bargain, others will decide for
> us.
> >
> > I believe we have plenty of great exchanges, concrete suggestions (on one
> > side and the other) and good starting point do advance to a more concrete
> > position in the near future. But we need to map what has been said about
> EC
> > so far, put them in a charter so we can visualize it. Could the
> > coordinators help us do it? What would be the best way to proceed? Maybe
> it
> > is time for the wiki you guys mentioned?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Marilia
> >
> > Ps:@Kati, regarding ACTA, not being aware of the intentions, this is how
> I
> > understood the paragraph, through literal reading. I have gone through
> the
> > e-mails trying to find when the reference to ACTA was included, but was
> > unable to.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Katitza Rodriguez <katitza at eff.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Parminder's intention go far beyond yours, Marilia if I understood
> >> correctly. But I like your framing:
> >>
> >> If this is the case, we should called attention to the ITU and APEC. In
> my
> >> previous job, we have been even denied observer status in APEC, and the
> only
> >> way to get into the meetings was through our national delegations, which
> I
> >> have done. The country who object to our observer status was the same
> >> country that make troubles within the IGF. After a few meetings, we were
> >> able to get observer status but we have to applied meeting by meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/10/10 3:24 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Regarding the reference made to ACTA, I don´t think we are implying
> that
> >>> the effective respect for these principles (openness, transparency,
> >>> accountability, etc) will stop forum shifting. The way I understand, we
> are
> >>> simply calling attention to the fact that these principles have been
> >>> disregarded in other regimes/debates and that a clear message should be
> sent
> >>> against this disrespect, by reaffirming these principles and making
> them the
> >>> base of our arrangements.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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