[governance] FINAL? DRAFT statement on enhanced cooperation

[Miguel Alcaine]

Dear all,

I think Marialia is right. It will be very convenient to work further and
beyond the statement. I took the liberty to put in bold some of the text in
Marilia's email.

Best,

Miguel

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel at gmail.com>wrote:

> I feel I need to say that I am supporting this draft because I believe it
> is the possible consensus we are able to reach by the end of the present
> week.
>
>
> *But then I ned to ask: will the lively debate that is currently taking
> place cease when we send our statement? I hope not, because the present
> statement is definitely not an IGC position on EC. So the debate needs to
> continue, both on what was called “core EC” and “broader conditions for EC”:
> how to define it? do we need it? in which ares? how to implement it? If we
> don’t have a proposal to put on the table and bargain, others will decide
> for us.*
>
> *
> *
>
> *I believe we have plenty of great exchanges, concrete suggestions (on one
> side and the other) and good starting point do advance to a more concrete
> position in the near future. But we need to map what has been said about EC
> so far, put them in a charter so we can visualize it.  Could the
> coordinators help us do it? What would be the best way to proceed? Maybe it
> is time for the wiki you guys mentioned?
> *
>
>
> Best,
>
> Marilia
>
>
> Ps:@Kati, regarding ACTA, not being aware of the intentions, this is how I
> understood the paragraph, through literal reading.  I have gone through
> the e-mails trying to find when the reference to ACTA was included, but was
> unable to.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Katitza Rodriguez <katitza at eff.org>wrote:
>
>> Parminder's intention go far beyond yours, Marilia if I understood
>> correctly. But I like your framing:
>>
>> If this is the case, we should called attention to the ITU and APEC. In my
>> previous job, we have been even denied observer status in APEC, and the only
>> way to get into the meetings was through our national delegations, which I
>> have done. The country who object to our observer status was the same
>> country that make troubles within the IGF. After a few meetings, we were
>> able to get observer status but we have to applied meeting by meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/10 3:24 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding the reference made to ACTA, I don´t think we are implying that
>>> the effective respect for these principles (openness, transparency,
>>> accountability, etc) will stop forum shifting. The way I understand, we are
>>> simply calling attention to the fact that these principles have been
>>> disregarded in other regimes/debates and that a clear message should be sent
>>> against this disrespect, by reaffirming these principles and making them the
>>> base of our arrangements.
>>>
>>
>>
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