<div>Dear all,</div>
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<div>I think Marialia is right. It will be very convenient to work further and beyond the statement. I took the liberty to put in bold some of the text in Marilia's email.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Miguel<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I feel I need to say that I am supporting this draft because I believe it is the possible consensus we are able to reach by the end of the present week. <br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>But then I ned to ask: will the lively debate that is currently taking place cease when we send our statement? I hope not, because the present statement is definitely not an IGC position on EC. So the debate needs to continue, both on what was called “core EC” and “broader conditions for EC”: how to define it? do we need it? in which ares? how to implement it? If we don’t have a proposal to put on the table and bargain, others will decide for us.</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>I believe we have plenty of great exchanges, concrete suggestions (on one side and the other) and good starting point do advance to a more concrete position in the near future. But we need to map what has been said about EC so far, put them in a charter so we can visualize it. Could the coordinators help us do it? What would be the best way to proceed? Maybe it is time for the wiki you guys mentioned?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marilia</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ps:@Kati, regarding ACTA, not being aware of the intentions, this is how I understood the paragraph, through literal reading. <span></span>I have gone through the e-mails trying to find when the reference to ACTA was included, but was unable to. </p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Katitza Rodriguez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:katitza@eff.org" target="_blank">katitza@eff.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Parminder's intention go far beyond yours, Marilia if I understood correctly. But I like your framing:<br>
<br>If this is the case, we should called attention to the ITU and APEC. In my previous job, we have been even denied observer status in APEC, and the only way to get into the meetings was through our national delegations, which I have done. The country who object to our observer status was the same country that make troubles within the IGF. After a few meetings, we were able to get observer status but we have to applied meeting by meeting.
<div><br><br><br>On 11/10/10 3:24 PM, Marilia Maciel wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Regarding the reference made to ACTA, I don´t think we are implying that the effective respect for these principles (openness, transparency, accountability, etc) will stop forum shifting. The way I understand, we are simply calling attention to the fact that these principles have been disregarded in other regimes/debates and that a clear message should be sent against this disrespect, by reaffirming these principles and making them the base of our arrangements. <br>
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