[governance] Re: SECOND DRAFT statement on enhanced cooperation

[parminder]

McTim

And if, in response to my cited figures about India, you may want to say 
that the real full impact of ICTs may be yet to come to India, you may 
be interested in the statistics of the 'front yard' , the US, where the 
new innovation based 'ecosystems' you speak of have had the longest play.

To quote from the academic paper at 
www.networkideas.org/ideasact/jan09/PDF/Fine.pdf

    "Over the period of neo-liberalism, from the mid-1970s, there have
    been dramatic and
    uniquely extreme reversals in the evolving patterns of income
    distribution in the United
    States. Whilst, without wishing to finesse the figures, the average
    income of 90% of the
    population has stagnated, the share of income of the top 1% has
    increased from well
    below 10% to around double that. "

These figures, along with those below about India, may take some gloss 
off the supposedly big and neutrally (or equally for all) advantageous 
role that ICTs are touted to play in our socio-economic systems.

Parminder



On Saturday 06 November 2010 06:49 PM, parminder wrote:
> McTim
>
> Rest of your responses to my proposal are a bit of a standard exchange 
> between us, and I may have not have much new to say, but I will like 
> to make a comment on the following.
>
> On Saturday 06 November 2010 01:26 PM, McTim wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  And if we think there is a global vacuum vis a vis global IG policies, what
>>> >  is our analysis about whose interests such a vacuum serves,
>>>      
>> It seems to have served innovation quite well, built economies and
>> eco-sytems.  Look at your own backyard to find the
>>
>>    
> About my backyard, two things
>
> one, pl read this article about the recent 2010 UNDP HDR report, from 
> which I quote
>
>     "India has failed to make any significant improvement in its
>     poverty figures,with over 400 million -- more than the total in
>     the poorest African nations -- still struck in poverty, the Human
>     Development Report 2010 said today, listing India at the 119th
>     position on the Human Development Index." ( some more details,
>     that may be startling to some, at
>     http://www.mydigitalfc.com/economy/indias-growth-fails-translate-poverty-alleviation-hdr-024
>     )
>
> One may wonder how in this time of ICTs and instant news from all over 
> the world, people seem to keep getting not too right a picture of 
> where and how things really may be in India. Any comments on this?
>
> Second thing about my backyard, I did share with the list a few weeks 
> back, mobile companies are colonizing the mobile Internet in India by 
> the day like nobody's business. Mobile Internet is facebook, google 
> and yahoo, not the neutral and open Internet we seem to be thinking 
> and talking about here. I have no doubt that, going this way, the 
> Internet would soon turn into an instrument of increased dependency of 
> the marginalised on outside forces and agents. Its potential for 
> empowering local, community based processes is being increasingly 
> compromised.
>
> So, yes, I do look at my backyard, and my comments and my proposal are 
> informed by it.
>
> Parminder
>
>
>
>
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