[governance] [2 of 6] How best to nominate non governmental members
Jeanette Hofmann
jeanette at wzb.eu
Fri Jun 11 09:56:18 EDT 2010
Hi Katitza,
I agree with you that civil society organization in the MAG is rather
weak compared to the private sector and technical community representation.
Partly this has to do with the fact that we are volunteers whereas the
private sector is represented by professionals whose job it is to
advocate private sector positions. However, what also should be
mentioned is that not all of us contribute as much as we should. One
person doesn't even bother to come to the meeting or participate remotely.
Another reason is that we are much more heterogeneous in our positions
than the private sector and the technical community who most of the time
agree with each other and confirm what other members have said before.
The civil society people on the MAG are probably too diverse to offer
each other such a degree of support.
At the last MAG meeting I suggested a nomcom approach for the selection
of new MAG members. That way, at least members from the private sector
and civil society could be selected in a coordinated way. This proposal
found some support in the MAG.
I am not sure the IGC has enough credibility to function as the
principle selection body for civil society candidates for the MAG.
jeanette
Katitza Rodriguez wrote:
> Hey there,
>
> I would like to make an honest and informal assessment which I have been
> observing as general points in this overall discussion:
>
> 1. I think there is a lack of disparity in "knowledge" and
> "advocacy/lobbying skills" between the business sector/technical
> community and civil society within the MAG. This makes, in my personal
> opinion, civil society representation weak within the MAG (and it looks
> like we have less people that other constituencies).
>
> 2. While I do agree that anyone can represent the overall civil society,
> there are ways where we can organize ourselves. Those civil society
> members who are interested to participate in the meeting and are not IGC
> members can contact the Secretariat, and then the Secretariat can
> forward them to us. If they want to be count in the election, those
> persons can submit their nomination through this umbrella organization.
> Therefore, we can truly assess not only the diversity, gender balance
> but also take into account if we have the right composition in terms of
> knowledge to take care of all this issues. FYI: IGC had previously
> choose IGC reps that are members and non members as long as they are
> civil society so it has had an inclusive views in the way the selected
> their representative.
>
> 3. Be in the MAG can take you lot of hours of works if you want to
> meaningful contribution but also you can do a meaningful contribution as
> a participant if you are able to attend the open consultations. More of
> the work is done there (and then by email following up those discussions
> and within those who were present in the meeting). If you are not aware
> of the dynamics (that usually changes), you can be lost in the process.
>
> If you truly want to take care of the issues (freedom of expression,
> privacy, due process, etc etc etc), then you need to be very active
> because the process is made in the moment and if you get lost.. .then it
> is much difficult to influence the outcome.
>
> Finally, I think the Secretariat have try to make a fair assessment of
> the selection of those representative who were not selected by IGC in
> order to have a broader civil society representation.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/10/10 5:42 AM, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>> Hi, b does not offer a workable solution because the caucus is not the
>> global representative of civil society in the field of Internet
>> governance. After years and years of this debate it would be really
>> good if we could come to terms with the fact that people choose
>> different avenues for applying for a seat on the MAG. If we want to
>> suggest new ways of selecting members, we need to take into
>> consideration that the IGC is not and will not be the center of the
>> civil society world.
>>
>> jeanette
>>
>> Eric Dierker wrote:
>>> Jeremy,
>>>
>>> I like b. We have seen throughout the last century several classic
>>> attempts to incorporate a "member of the party" electoral process. So
>>> often countries claimed elections were open and honest and in fact
>>> had huge turnouts. But you could only vote for a "party candidate".
>>> Too often US and UK elections reach the same result and there is a
>>> constant revolt against the notion.
>>>
>>> Of course I hope this is consistent with my view that the (that is
>>> we*) play a more influencial role. That open, well supervised,
>>> public forum lists be the genesis for more input. That consensus play
>>> a role but that minority views be given weight so that the majority
>>> conclusions can be more pure and less watered down.
>>>
>>> So I think we should keep nominations open open open for those with a
>>> proven desire for public service (like Ginger and Jeremy).
>>>
>>>
>>> * I appreciate very much using this concept as descriptive of the
>>> IGC. It is what is mostly desired to be achieved and I think */we/*
>>> do a good job of it.
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 6/8/10, Jeremy Malcolm /<jeremy at ciroap.org>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] [2 of 6] How best to nominate non governmental
>>> members for the MAG?
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:26 AM
>>>
>>> Continuing the questions from the MAG questionnaire
>>> (http://intgovforum.org/cms/the-preparatory-process/510), comes the
>>> second question:
>>>
>>> *How best to nominate non governmental members for the MAG?*
>>>
>>> Some options are:
>>>
>>> (a) The existing "black box" approach whereby the United Nations
>>> Secretary General selects from a range of nominees put forward by
>>> various parties - selection criteria are not publicly available.
>>>
>>> (b) The IGC (that is, we) could choose, based on certain selection
>>> criteria to ensure diversity etc, that are currently within the
>>> "black box" but would be made public.
>>>
>>> (c) A new nominating committee, selected from a pool of civil
>>> society volunteers, could put forward candidates based on the
>>> selection criteria - similar to what we do internally in the IGC,
>>> and also used by other IG institutions such as the IETF.
>>>
>>> (d) Another civil society umbrella group could nominate them. This
>>> could be the WSIS Civil Society Plenary (which no longer really
>>> exists, but it may be necessary to re-form it before 2015), or an
>>> entirely new peak body.
>>>
>>> Which of these options do you prefer? Can you think of others?
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