[governance] [2 of 6] How best to nominate non governmental members

Katitza Rodriguez katitza at eff.org
Thu Jun 10 13:54:24 EDT 2010


Hey there,

I would like to make an honest and informal assessment which I have been 
observing as general points in this overall discussion:

1.  I think there is a lack of disparity in "knowledge" and 
"advocacy/lobbying skills" between the business sector/technical 
community and civil society within the MAG. This makes, in my personal 
opinion, civil society representation weak within the MAG  (and it looks 
like we have less people that other constituencies).

2. While I do agree that anyone can represent the overall civil society, 
there are ways where we can organize ourselves.  Those civil society 
members who are interested to participate in the meeting and are not IGC 
members can contact the Secretariat, and then the Secretariat can 
forward them to us. If they want to be count in the election, those 
persons can submit their nomination through this umbrella organization.  
Therefore, we can truly assess not only the diversity, gender balance 
but also take into account if we have the right composition in terms of 
knowledge to take care of all this issues. FYI: IGC had previously 
choose IGC reps that are members and non members as long as they are 
civil society so it has had an inclusive views in the way the selected 
their representative.

3. Be in the MAG can take you lot of hours of works if you want to 
meaningful contribution but also you can do a meaningful contribution as 
a participant if you are able to attend the open consultations. More of 
the work is done there (and then by email following up those discussions 
and within those who were present in the meeting). If you are not aware 
of the dynamics (that usually changes), you can be lost in the process.

If you truly want to take care of the issues (freedom of expression, 
privacy, due process, etc etc etc), then you need to be very active 
because the process is made in the moment and if you get lost.. .then it 
is much difficult to influence the outcome.

Finally, I think the Secretariat have try to make a fair assessment of 
the selection of those representative who were not selected by IGC in 
order to have a broader civil society representation.





On 6/10/10 5:42 AM, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
> Hi, b does not offer a workable solution because the caucus is not the 
> global representative of civil society in the field of Internet 
> governance. After years and years of this debate it would be really 
> good if we could come to terms with the fact that people choose 
> different avenues for applying for a seat on the MAG. If we want to 
> suggest new ways of selecting members, we need to take into 
> consideration that the IGC is not and will not be the center of the 
> civil society world.
>
> jeanette
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> I like b.  We have seen throughout the last century several classic 
>> attempts to incorporate a "member of the party" electoral process. So 
>> often countries claimed elections were open and honest and in fact 
>> had huge turnouts. But you could only vote for a "party candidate". 
>> Too often US and UK elections reach the same result and there is a 
>> constant revolt against the notion.
>>
>> Of course I hope this is consistent with my view that the (that is 
>> we*) play a more influencial role.  That open, well supervised, 
>> public forum lists be the genesis for more input. That consensus play 
>> a role but that minority views be given weight so that the majority 
>> conclusions can be more pure and less watered down.
>>
>> So I think we should keep nominations open open open for those with a 
>> proven desire for public service (like Ginger and Jeremy).
>>
>>
>> * I appreciate very much using this concept as descriptive of the 
>> IGC. It is what is mostly desired to be achieved and I think */we/* 
>> do a good job of it.
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 6/8/10, Jeremy Malcolm /<jeremy at ciroap.org>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org>
>>     Subject: [governance] [2 of 6] How best to nominate non governmental
>>     members for the MAG?
>>     To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>     Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 4:26 AM
>>
>>     Continuing the questions from the MAG questionnaire
>>     (http://intgovforum.org/cms/the-preparatory-process/510), comes the
>>     second question:
>>
>>     *How best to nominate non governmental members for the MAG?*
>>
>>     Some options are:
>>
>>     (a) The existing "black box" approach whereby the United Nations
>>     Secretary General selects from a range of nominees put forward by
>>     various parties - selection criteria are not publicly available.
>>
>>     (b) The IGC (that is, we) could choose, based on certain selection
>>     criteria to ensure diversity etc, that are currently within the
>>     "black box" but would be made public.
>>
>>     (c) A new nominating committee, selected from a pool of civil
>>     society volunteers, could put forward candidates based on the
>>     selection criteria - similar to what we do internally in the IGC,
>>     and also used by other IG institutions such as the IETF.
>>
>>     (d) Another civil society umbrella group could nominate them.  This
>>     could be the WSIS Civil Society Plenary (which no longer really
>>     exists, but it may be necessary to re-form it before 2015), or an
>>     entirely new peak body.
>>
>>     Which of these options do you prefer?  Can you think of others?
>>     --
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