[governance] IGC statement REVISION 2.0: Para one

[Katitza Rodriguez]

Hola Shiva :)

I am busy this weekend but I will reply to you soon. :) In the meantime,

On Jan 17, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>
> Katiza's objection to McTim's revised statement stems from a fear  
> that an independent IGF wouldn't uphold human rights on the  
> Internet. Is this a valid assumption?

My point is a legal one. However, let me send my comments on Tuesday  
or Monday night. I have many deadlines that due on Monday. All the  
best, Katitza


>
> The idea of an independent IGF is not restricted to the scenario of  
> the mandate not being renewed. The IGC has to be emphatic in its  
> position that the mandate has to be renewed and for the next phase  
> of 5 of 10 years, we may consider a more independent IGF, with the  
> independence conceded by the UN wholeheartedly. The idea is not an  
> independent IGF that is distant from the UN, but rather an  
> independent IGF that is respectful of its origins as a UN initiated  
> forum.
>
> It is necessary to push for the continuation of IGF as a UN mandated  
> forum, though not insisting on funding from the UN. The Civil  
> Society may be confident of mobilizing the required funds or  
> organizing the forum, but it may not work as a forum continued  
> without the UN mandate. In traditional language, we need UN's  
> blessings even to continue the IGF on our own.
>
> I still feel that the renewal of the mandate is an unnecessary  
> doubt. What we need to be wary of is ITU's designs to expand its  
> illegitimate role in policy making. ITU manages to stay close to  
> Governments and is in a position to mislead Government participants  
> to create the vacuum that it requires. We need to be very very  
> watchful and careful.
>
>
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
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>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Yehuda Katz <yehudakatz at mailinator.com 
> > wrote:
>
> > We are working here towards upholding human rights on the  
> Internet....
>
> Katitza / McTIm,
>
> First; "I belive" ... that there is quite a bit more diversity in  
> this Group
> (the IGC / this List) than those whom are Stakeholders in "human  
> rights on the
> Internet" issues.
> Second, although I hold a small (or an associated) concern in  
> regards to
> Internet-Human-Rights via the development of Social Contracts [K],
> I feel that this List has been 'steered' (almost hyjacked) into the
> Internet-Human-Rights issue, as now it is the List's Mandate.
> I resent that, this List used to be open to all concepts of Internet
> governance, and stood to address a diversity of interest.
>
> Third; In the immediate Thread [IGC statement REVISION 2.x], I feel  
> the issue
> should 'make a Statement' in regards to the ITU and the possible/ 
> speculative
> 'Pronouncements' it will make upon the "ITU pushed
> WSIS Forum in May 2010 and the ITU Plenipotentiary Conference in  
> October " as
> Wolfgang* has in formed and accurately forewarned this List.
>
> The ITU *will* absorbe the space which the IGC creates, upon the  
> event a power
> vacume is manufactured by the ending of the IGF. The ITU will  
> position itself
> and  make such a Declaration (Center of IG Governance) of Power.
>
> It needs to be addressed and countered, at this time (in this  
> Statement).
>
> -
>
> * Wolfgang Kleinwächter
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: [governance] WG: Concern for the future of civil society re  
> IGF
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:13:24 +0100
>
> [ http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2010-01/msg00194.html ]
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