[governance] Re: Remote Participation Instructions for the MAG
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mail at christopherwilkinson.eu
Wed Feb 10 05:40:07 EST 2010
Well, that does not work. There is no video atall. The video link
leads to an advertisement from VideoLAN. The VCL mediaplayer download
offered does not improve matters.
The Chat is Read Only.
Who is <sdkaaa>?
How did Chennai post their interesting question? I notice that nobody
else has found out how to enter meaningful text into the Chat.
Regards, CW
On 09 Feb 2010, at 15:18, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> Ginger,
>
> These comments are comments are not posted for discussion in today's
> meetings. Think of this discussion as a sideline discussion during
> the review process, to take further shape as a concrete proposal.
> Yes, we will send this to the Secretariat as a suggestion.
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> http://www.isocmadras.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good point, Shiva, and one many have made at the OC this morning. We
> are now past the time for this agenda point, and are moving on to
> agenda. We are not looking for a solution for today, but for
> participation in a process. I suggest that you send this comment
> directly to the IGF secretariat, and I know the RPWG will take it
> under consideration.
>
> Best,
> Ginger
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ginger
>>
>> Oliver and I had a chat on this topic and I have had some exchanges
>> on twitter with Marilla.
>>
>> Our concern is not to find a temporary solution to participate in
>> the meeting today, it is a general concern, it is about the
>> technical resources required for remote participation, by IGF
>> standards
>>
>> IGF is *THE* Internet forum, a place where the who is who of
>> Internet and all the technical expertise converges and the
>> infrastructure available must be uncompromising. The present
>> standards are a generation behind, there is no room for contention.
>>
>> It is all run by volunteers, yes, but this is not a comment about
>> people, it is a comment about the resources to be committed, about
>> the attention that needs to be paid. IGF needs to consult
>> professionals months in advance to determine the bandwidth and
>> infrastructure requirements, arrange to send experts to the
>> locations days in advance to flawlessly set up the remote
>> participation infrastructure.
>>
>> My suggestion here is that administratively the IGF Secretariat
>> could call for advise from the technical community
>>
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>> http://www.isocmadras.com
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Bernard Sadaka <sdkaaa at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Dear Olivier,
>> Please find bellow all the ways you could participate in the
>> current IGF OC:
>> Remote participation including coveritlive, twitter and video/
>> audio: http://www.igfremote.info/RP/
>> Remote participation including coveritlive, twitter and audio only: http://www.igfremote.info/RP/audioonly.php
>> Remote participation from your mobile including coveritlive,
>> twitter and no audio or video: http://www.igfremote.info/mRP/
>> Remote participation via Webex: http://bit.ly/bvJQSY
>> Let me know if i can help you in any other way...
>> All the best,
>>
>> Bernard
>> --
>> Bernard SADAKA
>> Mobile: +961 3 172377
>> Email : sdkaaa at gmail.com
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> BsE in Computer and Communication Engineer
>> Lebanon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com
>> > wrote:
>> Hello Bernard,
>>
>> thank you, and thanks to all of the others (Patrik Fältström, for
>> example), who have tried to have some kind of remote participation
>> set-up. This is not meant as a criticism of anyone, just a
>> provocative remark to get some people to open their eyes, rather
>> than bathing each other in congratulatory, back-patting, empty
>> speech.
>>
>> The trouble is that I've never managed to get the video/audio feed
>> to work.
>> For one, they don't work with Firefox.
>> And then it appears that there's not enough bandwidth somewhere
>> along the line...
>> I can get Webex, Skype, Marratech, Adobe Meeting, and Jabber to
>> work perfectly, even with 2-way video, and yet, remote
>> participation at this meeting = nil.
>>
>> Whatever, remote participation, for me, currently rates at 0/10.
>> ie. non existent.
>>
>> Any remote participation system should be designed for 100s of
>> remote participants, and should not fail when more than 10 people
>> connect simultaneously...
>>
>> My question: with the whole point of the IGF being multi-
>> stakeholder public participation, why is this subject not being
>> dealt with in a professional way?
>> The current arrangement is very poor. Sorry, I mean: dreadful. It
>> makes the whole IGF process a complete joke.
>> Perhaps Dr. Touré was right when he used the term "waste of time".
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> Le 08/02/2010 22:00, Bernard Sadaka a écrit :
>>>
>>> Thx Sivasubramanian,
>>> You could also use http://www.igfremote.info/RP/
>>> or http://www.igfremote.info/mRP/ from a mobile phone (you won't
>>> have webcast though here :) )
>>> All the Best.
>>> Bernard.
>>> --
>>> Bernard SADAKA
>>> Mobile: +961 3 172377
>>> Email : sdkaaa at gmail.com
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> BsE in Computer and Communication Engineer
>>> Lebanon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Bernard sdkaaa of Lebanon has gathered this info that would make
>>> it easy to participate remotely in the meeting tomorrow:
>>>
>>>
>>> Live Blog: IGF February 2010 Open Consultations
>>> Date: Tuesday February 9, 2010
>>> Time: 09:30 CET
>>>
>>> In order to view the event, simply click here. Or alternatively,
>>> copy-paste this link in your browser:
>>>
>>> http://www.igfremote.info/RP/?altcast_code=e02867f44e
>>>
>>> No passwords necessary.
>>>
>>> Questions to sharmstocktaking at intgovforum.org
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>> http://www.isocmadras.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>>
>>
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