RES: [governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

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Tue Dec 7 18:08:46 EST 2010


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De: governance-request at lists.cpsr.org [mailto:governance-request at lists.cpsr.org] Em nome de Hong Xue
Enviada em: terça-feira, 7 de dezembro de 2010 05:24
Para: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Daniel Kalchev
Assunto: Re: [governance] Is really Bulgarian Cyrillic .бг (.bg) similar to other Latin ccTLDs?

 


Has anyone on this list attended "IDN fast track process review" debriefing at ICANN Cartagena Meeting on December 6? Please refer to http://cartagena39.icann.org/node/15415. Ms. Tina Dam and Mr. Patrick Jones from ICANN chaired the session. 

Tina presented on the following aspects of fast track process:

- Transparency
- Community Support
- Meaningfulness
- Determination of the IDN ccTLD manager
- IDN Tables
- Disputes
- Confusingly similar string
- Objection/re-evaluation rights

Although there were less than 30 participants in the plenary room, the session brought up interesting information. At the end of the presentation, there were questions raised on the Internet referred to .бг (.bg) case. The staff restated that they were not supposed to comment on any specific case. 

I then asked a procedural question. Although the String evaluation done by DNS stability panel (according to their guidelines) is a technical decision, it is a decision made on behalf of ICANN and has (significant) policy implication. If such technical determination is not subject to reconsideration or independent review, wouldn't it be an accountability issue, as highlighted by ICANN at the opening ceremony? 

To my *rough* memory, both replied that fast track process should be sufficiently simply, without objection or re-evaluation. And, surprisingly both ICANN staff replied that anyone would be available to reconsideration or review. 

Although I was terribly jetlagged, I assume I heard their reply clearly. Since I had another meeting and had to leave the conference room immediately after the question , I did not know if this issue was discussed further. 

The audio record at the link is broken unfortunately. If there were anyone present, could you let me know if I heard the reply wrong?

Regards

Hong





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Dr. Hong Xue
Professor of Law
Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)
Beijing Normal University
http://www.iipl.org.cn/ <http://iipl.org.cn/> 
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
Beijing 100875 China

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel at digsys.bg> wrote:

There is not much point in pointing fingers. Much of the damage has been done to both the Bulgarian application (Government's reputation) and to ICANN (process quality, suspiction of double standards). As it was noted, we can all learn from mistakes and the time now is appropriate to correct the issues.

In my opinion, the fact that there is some shielding of process flow from the non-involved parties is not bad. Bad is the lack of defined evaulation criteria and the total lack of wider/public consultations in the evaluation stages (not decision stages) of the process. Another bad practice is the lack of detailed explanation after the fact. It is only logocal, that refused applications will be reviewed by external parties and those parties may find lack of diligency on part of the staff/evaluation groups. What then?
If there is no procedure for explaining/justifying the opinion or decision, there will always be the doubt that someone has done wrong. And those concerns grow with time until at some point trust breaks.

Daniel


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