[governance] Upcoming OC meeting in Geneva May 13: IGC agenda?

[Ginger Paque]

Hello everyone,
Is it possible to program a breakfast meeting on Wednesday, before the 
meeting starts? Any suggestions? Otherwise, yes, please, let's meet for 
lunch. And during the meeting, can we please have a Skype chat 
conference going, with people in Geneva and remote?

Will we repeat the same statement on Internet rights and principles as 
sent previously to the Secretariat, or draft a new one?

Can we draft a very short statement to have ready in case the ICANN/EU 
subject comes up? This would not be used if the topic does not arise.

Chengatai has promised to get back to me with RP details for the OC. It 
would be good to have Ian and as many others as possible present by RP.

By now most of you have realized that as co-coordinator, I am a 
clerk/spokesperson/moderator following group orders, I am not a policy 
maker, nor, of course should I be. But for Ian and I to be effective, I 
need clear consensus on our stance. Please help us synthesize our 
objectives for this meeting.

Thanks! Best, Ginger

Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> it seems obvious that from a civil society point of view, we would not 
> be happy about replacing a unilateral oversight model by a 
> multilateral equivalent. The questions that bothers me is
> 1. how a multi-stakeholder model could still have some teeth 
> (non-state actors usually lack the authority for binding decisions)
> 2. how a multi-stakeholder model could still be independent of ICANN. 
> I am sure ICANN would try to be part of the body supposed to oversee 
> ICANN. Within a multi-stakeholder framework, I don't see on what 
> grounds this could be prevented.
>
> jeanette
>
> William Drake wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On May 5, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Ian Peter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ginger,
>>>
>>> As discussed offlist, I'm not going to be able to make it this time, 
>>> but
>>> will try to participate remotely as best I can.
>>
>> Sorry you can't make it Ian but glad to hear Ginger can.  Perhaps it 
>> would be useful to know who's coming and whether we want to organize 
>> the usual caucus lunch on Wednesday to coordinate.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think one thing we could agree on as a brief statement is that if EU
>>> proposes its model during the OC, we could state that civil society, 
>>> while
>>> looking towards an ICANN free of the JPA, has concerns about the 
>>> specific
>>> model being proposed by EU. I think that reflects our thinking at this
>>> stage.
>>
>> Probably it's not too helpful to say we have concerns and leave it 
>> there, people might want to know what they are.  Is it that with 
>> respect to the intergovernmental dimension, it's unclear what weight 
>> G12 pronouncements would carry, what their scope might encompass, or 
>> how decisions would be arrived at?  That it's a plurilateral rather 
>> than broadly multilateral system, and that the selection process 
>> could become a political nightmare?  That the precise relationship to 
>> and implications for GAC/ICANN are unclear?  That the role of 
>> nongovernmental stakeholders, if any, is unclear?  That the process 
>> of devising this proposal was opaque and non-inclusive? Other 
>> aspects...?
>>
>> Hopefully after the meeting in Brussels attendees can fill us in on 
>> any clarifications and then we can see what if anything the caucus 
>> could agree on?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I wouldn't bring it up unless it is raised by EU or others.
>>
>> Agree
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bill
>>  
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