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[Parminder]

>Yes, but the point is that those themes ARE in the Tunis Agenda. 
>Did no one on the MAG point this out? 

Milton

When the discussion on the IGF-4's overall theme begun, after one member 
proposed 'Internet - An Opportunity for All' I immediately proposed 
'Internet rights and principles' and it got negative responses from 
expected quarters. The bigger problem was that it did not get much 
support from many 'expected quarters' (my way of getting around the 
chatham house rules :) ) especially from those who have typically 
preferred 'non-controversial' titles and themes. Some civil society 
voiced spoke in favour  but it never looked like picking up good 
momentum. We can only be happy that it is in the text as one proposed 
overall title, which itself crosses one threshold of discourse 
influencing/ shaping, and gives us space to push it more the next time.

As for rights being in the WSIS documents, I did mention the point  that 
WSIS declaration of principles opens with affirmation of a series of 
rights. (While your email below quotes WSIS text only on 'negaitve 
rigths' I, again expectedly :) , mentioned text on both negative and 
positive rights). I argued that WSIS docs say that we vision an 
information society based on rights and, in another document that  the 
Internet  is  a  central infrastructure of the information society. Read 
together it obviously makes it important to at least explore what rights 
are relevant and important vis a vis the Internet.

I did not make the point you make on 'development of globally-applicable 
principle' because real opposition was to the term 'Internet rights'.

parminder

Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Just as a matter of fact, regarding this:
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>>     
>>> While a
>>> majority of the members was positive about addressing Internet rights
>>> and principles more systematically, there was also at least one member
>>> who thought that this is not a good idea. The formal reason being given
>>> was that Internet rights and principles are not mentioned in the Tunis
>>> agenda and should therefore not be discussed at IGF meetings.
>>>       
>
> Paragraph 70, the Tunis Agenda says that globally applicable public policy principles should be developed: "Using relevant international organizations, such cooperation should include the development of globally-applicable principles on public policy issues associated with the coordination and management of critical Internet resources. In this regard, we call upon the organizations responsible for essential tasks associated with the Internet to contribute to creating an environment that facilitates this development of public policy principles."
>
> Tunis Agenda, Paragraph 42: "We reaffirm our commitment to the freedom to seek, receive, impart and use information, in particular, for the creation, accumulation and dissemination of knowledge. We affirm that measures undertaken to ensure Internet stability and security, to fight cybercrime and to counter spam, must protect and respect the provisions for privacy and freedom of expression as contained in the relevant parts of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the Geneva Declaration of Principles."
>
>   
>>> Again, this is a minority opinion. It was pointed out already in the MAG
>>> meeting that no new topics could ever be addressed, if only those
>>> explictely mentioned in the Tunis Agenda can make it onto the IGF
>>> agenda.
>>>       
>
> Yes, but the point is that those themes ARE in the Tunis Agenda. 
> Did no one on the MAG point this out? 
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