[governance] Call for workshop proposals

Mon Mar 16 19:42:01 EDT 2009

Avri,

re participation from those not on the stage, you may want to ask for 
references about the breakout session for Latin America and the Caribbean, 
after the workshop on e-Crime and DNS abuse in Mexico City, which was 
turned into an essentially non-stage participant-driven discussion.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Avri Doria wrote:

> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:32:59 -0400
> From: Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
> Reply-To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Avri Doria <avri at psg.com>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Re: [governance] Call for workshop proposals
> 
> hi,
>
> interesting as the ICANN workshop was, it needs to have equal
> contribution by the civil libertarians interested in the defense against
> the fervor of those who fight against crime.  and needs to have much
> more contribution from those sitting in the house as opposed to just
> those on stage.
>
> a.
>
>
> On Mon, 2009-03-16 at 11:08 -0300, vanda wrote:
>> hi all
>>  After the success we had in our session in ICANN Mexico about
>> e-crimes  legislations & experiences, I believe we should have similar
>> IGF session with a broader scope.  At ICANN we just debated DNS
>> related crimes - of course it represents a large portion of e-related
>> crimes, but the proposals are far below the general issues affecting
>> internet
>> just my 2 cents
>> Vanda Scartezini
>>
>>
>>
>> Em 16/03/2009 08:04, Ralf Bendrath   escreveu:
>>
>>
>>         Milton L Mueller schrieb:
>>
>>        > I think a WS on the role of Government in IG is useful for
>>         the IGF, and
>>        > for civil society to be the initators. I see echoes of this
>>         theme in
>>        > current discussions of G7-G20, discussions of ICANN-GAC,
>>         discussions of
>>        > different actions of national governments, forum shopping,
>>         etc.
>>
>>         This would spark an interesting discussion, indeed. But please
>>         do not
>>         equate "Internet Governance" with "ICANN" and only talk about
>>         the MAG and
>>         the JPA. ;-)
>>
>>        > As for Net Neutrality, what is the GLOBAL angle on it? What
>>         would a
>>        > discussion contribute that hasn’t already been said.
>>
>>         I guess it would be interesting to invite some folks from IETF
>>         and related
>>         transnational tech forums. The NN debates have so far mostly
>>         focused on
>>         regulations by government agencies or the EU, but the IETF for
>>         example has
>>         also done some work on "what constitutes fairness in bandwidth
>>         management", e.g. here:
>>
>>         They are also working on less infringing ways of dealing with
>>         the massive
>>         volume of P2P traffic:
>>
>>
>>         Oh, and then there are a number of techies who say that the
>>         end-to-end
>>         principle is dead already, because of NAT and related issues.
>>         One of our
>>         colleagues in Delft has done a bit of work on this, and the
>>         CCC nerds in
>>         Bremen just told me the same over the weekend.
>>
>>         Bottom line: As you may remember, we had a hard time ourselves
>>         here
>>         recently defining what "NN" would mean exactly. So I guess
>>         some technical
>>         capacity building could not hurt at all here. ;-)
>>
>>        > The only new development there is the rise of Deep Packet
>>         Inspection,
>>
>>         Not only. It's also the spread of the "filtering" debates
>>         around the
>>         world, even in democratic countries. We're just having it in
>>         Germ any now. :-(
>>
>>        > which Ralf is working on and perhaps a WS on that would be
>>         useful, too
>>
>>         I am all for a workshop on NN and/or on DPI. This might also
>>         be a nice
>>         chance for collaboration with the IGF Dynamic Coalitions on
>>         Internet
>>         Rights and Principles, on Privacy, and on Freedom of
>>         Expression.
>>
>>         Best, Ralf
>>
>>         PS: My recent conference paper on DPI governance is here:
>>
>>         Feedback is more than welcome.
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