[governance] TR: Apologies and thanks

[Eric Dierker]

Sorry McTim,
 
But you are very wrong here.  It is very fortunate indeed.
 
And the question is not resiliency but usability --  a great resilient system that nobody uses answers all your other questions. Your issues regarding friendship and in and out of Africa, dotBombs and maintainability are a direct reflection of your failure to consider what makes people use your stuff.  Take a look at marketing and sales  --  that is what pays for this gear not benevolent governments. (you don't even seem to consider - Twitter, Itunes, facebook, myspace, ebay types, craiglist types and what makes a 10 million dollar domain, skype, yahoo messenger, pirate bay, efaxes and remittance transfers)  

--- On Sun, 6/28/09, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:


Yes, but unfortuantely, engineers only run the networks, they don't
run the companies that own the networks ;-/

Especially of one keeps in
> mind what happened -and how many billions were spent without any further
> use- during the dot.com bubble. Just an example, there were at that time 23
> "pan-european networks" existing in parallel and actually some of them are
> simply forgotten ... If we are to help Africa in its way for development we
> should be very careful and "technology and econoy driven" in our
> proposals especially as OPERATION & MAINTENANCE is the other major problem
> in any network, and more particularly in Africa than in the RoW. A good
> design for a network is this one that is resilient, survivable, upgradable,
> maintenable ... and affordable for the operators over the lifetime.
>
> < In Africa, most of our traffic leaves the continent, as there isn't
>> the local content and applications available to keep traffic within
>> the continent.
>
> As a friend of Africa I cannot accept this statement.

Well it's the current reality, whether you accept it or not.

I hope that Africans
> will progressively (and at a good pace) develop THEIR own content and
> applications and put them as soon as possible on the "pipes" for the sake of
> their populations, economy and culture ! Shouldn't the CS from everywhere
> support strongly this hope ?

of course, but until then....


-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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